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PostPosted: Jan.10.07 3:10 am 
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Асуулт Самбарын Хvндэт Харуул

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odon oron sonirhogch mun, uuriin hiisen odon ornii durantai bolohiig hussen hun buhend tuslahad belen bna. tand mungu bwal gadnii untei duran awch medeej bolno, gehde ehleed durangin talaar basic medlegtei bolj, bolomj bwal uuruu neg jijgiig gar doorhi materialaar hiigeed awah n iluu ur duntei. ugui, shuud hudaldaad awya gewel od harah sain chanariin duranguud bga shu, 99852002

za tegeed durangiin talaar sonirhoj bga asuuh heleh umnuudaa chuluudaad bgarai!

Astronomy, Physics mun optic durangiin tal deer mergejliin uudnees tuslaltsaa uzuulne, mun duran hiideg eswel mergejliin optician bwal optic telescopiin talaar sanal bodloo huwaaltsya...

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PostPosted: Jan.10.07 2:47 pm 
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PostPosted: Jan.11.07 4:52 pm 
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ta nar zoriglood um asuuhgui bol bi uuruu ehleed heden yum tawya.
ta durangiin talaar sonirhoj bwal neg yum sain oilgoh heregtei. humuus ihewchlen usgult hamgiin chuhal gedeg gewch ter bish!!!
hamgiin chuhal n:
1.aperture buyu chinii durangiin gerel tsugluulah chadwar
2.focal length
3.optic elementiin chanar
ene 3 hamgiin chuhal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


durangiin ajillah zarchim=heg lens eswel tolior gerel tsugluulah-2dh lenseer ter tsugluulsan gerlee tomruulj harah yum erduu l ene.
tomruulj hardag elementiig eyepiece; tsugluulagch elementiig objective gedeg. chi eyepiece gedeg elementiig soliod l duriin usgultuu hiij bolno. humuus ih usguh tusam sain gedeg ch tiim bish 300x-c 30x hamaagui nariin detal hesgiig haruulna. odon ornii durand iluu budeg objectiig harah, iluu ih detail harah l zorilgotoi. ene 2 n usgulttei bus gerel tsugluulah chadwartai shuud hamaaraltai.

minii hiisen duranguudaas hamgiin tom n 250mm-iin diameter buyu aperturetai. hamgiin jijig n 55mm. buh durang 1200x usguh ch 800x usguh ch 40x usguh ch bolomjtoi. gewch 1200x, 800x chamd detail haruulahgui, erduu budeg hachin yum l haruulna. usgultiin huchiig aperture-iin 1inch burd 20x deeshgui gej onol n heldeg yum uuruur helbel 6inchiin durangiin optic max usgult=6*20=120x. uunees iluu usguwul dursnii resolution aldagdna.

tiimees durangiin uzuuleltiig yarihdaa aperture, focal length-eer ilerhiildeg. 8inch telescope gewel gerel tsugluulagch lens eswel tolinii diameter n 200mm gesen ug yum.

asuuh um bwl ingeed sain asuugaad bgarai gj...

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PostPosted: Jan.11.07 4:55 pm 
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durangiin ajillah zarchmiin talaar deer durdsan, tegwel yamar elementeer ajillaj bna we gedgees hamaaran durang undsen 3 angildag:

1.refractor-tsugluulah element n lensen
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Imageachromatic refractor=refractoriin neg jishee


2.reflector-tsugluulah element=tolin
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3.catadioptric-holimog lenstei mun tolitoi
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Imagemaksutov-cassegrai system=catadioptriciin neg jishee


uunees tsaash ene 3 dotroo har myanga bolon saldag.

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PostPosted: Jan.12.07 3:58 pm 
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gishuun ttlc deer tawsan durangiin zurguud chiniih gej oilgogdood bna gene. herwee hen negen tegj enduu oilgson boil hultsel uchie, minii bie herhen pc-s zurag postlohiig medehgui bsn uchir minii hiidegtei tustei gadaadiin humuusiin hiisen telescope-iin zurguud deer yumaa tailbarlasan yum shu!!!


harin odoo ttlc-ni zaaj ugsunii achaar uuriin zarim duranguudiig postloh bolomjtoi bolloo, thnx ttlc!

edgeer zurguud n jinhene my made telescope-uud, ta nar manai clubt elsseneer oiroltsoogoor iimerhuu duranguudiig hiij surah bolomjtoi!

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edgeer n anhnii heden duranguudiin neg heseg n buguud ihenh n refractor telescope-uud neg maksutov-cassegrain systemiin duran bga.

Vega


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PostPosted: Jan.12.07 4:03 pm 
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za bas dahiad heden duran:

Image-reflector
Image-reflector-ritchey chretien
Image-reflector-ritchey chretienii optic layout=gerel tom tolind tsuglarj oigood modon deer togtoocon tolind mun oigood golin tolior damjin deed tald focuslagdaj bga yum.


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PostPosted: Jan.12.07 6:12 pm 
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Lense-ee yaj oldog vee?


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PostPosted: Jan.12.07 6:21 pm 
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GaM,

sonirhsond thnx!

lensiig olon eh surwaljaas awdag. minii medhiin hamgiin sain chanariin lens
*russiad bdg, jaahn untei gehde unheer sain.
*daraa ukrained olon niiluulegch bii, er n dajgui gehdee yag russiagiin lens-iig guitsne gej bodohgui bbna.
*hamgiin worst arga n china-s zahialah or UB hotiin ali neg optical-s awah. edgeer n hyamd ch chanar n awah yum bhgui, hugiin umnuud l bdg. gehde anh udaa hiij bga tohioldold untei gelgui ene n deer l dee.
zahialahdaa uuruu hussen lensniihee tootsoog hiin gadarguugiin muruiltiin indexuudiig zahialn hiilguuldeg; uuniig tootsoh amarhan ch jaahan yarwigtai...

harin tolinii huwd belen toli deerh gazruudaas awj bolno, gewch untei, bur nileen untei shu. minii huwd end hewiin uuruu gargaad ali neg gazarluu yawuulj unguluuldeg ter n 3dahin hyamd tusdag yum. gewch uuruu ungulnu gedeg tamiin ajil.tehdee l sonirholtoi l doo...

towchhon helhed iim bna, chi iluu ihiig sonirhwol asuultaa chuluudaad bgarai!

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he he. minii huvid ch sonirholtoi l baina. gevch ene tal deer yamarch medleg baihgui. uul ni goyo tselmeg shunu oddiig sain durangaar harval amidarliig magadgui bas l neg uur untsguus hardag boloh ch yum biluu gej boddogiin. daanch odoog hurtel iim bolomj oldoj baisangui. yor ni zugeer sonirhogchiin huvid anhnii udaad yamar duran hamgiin gaigui(chanariin huvid mani heddee tohirson), une ni bolomjiin baih bol. esvel uuruu sudalj neg yum hiisen ni deer vv?


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PostPosted: Jan.12.07 6:43 pm 
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thnx GaM,

sonin asuult bna hehe. bi yag inge teg ged shud helchih hetsuu bna...

tanii heldegtei sanal neg bna aa, tenger deer shaaal uur ertunts bdg, hun ih l uur bodoltoi boldg gej bodoj bnada...

minii zugees sanal bolgoh yum gewel, herwee tand gaigui tsag zaw bdg bol, herwee ta uuruu duran hiihiig sonirhoj bwal uuruu hiih n olon taliin ach holbogdoltoi yum:

1.ta magadgui 10jiliin physicsee martsan bol sergeegeed awah saihan bolomj
2.shine yum surah mash sonirholtoi arga gej huwdaa boddog
3.uuriin hiisen yum gedeg tsaana aa l uur shu dee
4.hamgiin chuhal n mungu hemnene...
5.ta optic, jaahan engineering, jaahn physics mun math surah bolno

medeej tand deerh tsag zaw geed olon asuudal bdg bol zaawal hiih geed bh ch shaardlaggui. hudaldaad awj mun bolno shu dee.

-ta duran hiihed medleg n ter bhgui gej shamtrah heregguidee, bi ch gesen anhandaa yu ch meddeggui l bsan gehdee hun uuruu huswel yu ch hiij bolno, ta hiij ehleheer shiidwel gantsaaraa bish bi hamt bgag sanaarai, buh talaar tuslah bolno!

-anhnii durangiin huwd, humuus yanz yanziin bodoltoi yawdag.
zarim n shuud untei tom duran awh n zuw gehed hun bolgond tiim bolomj bdaggui n haramsaltai. jijig duranguud ihewchlen chanar muutai tun udalgui ezendee gologdoh yum boldog. huwiin untsguus helhed, bi tanias ehleed durandaa heden $$$ zartsuulahiig chin medmeer bna, tuuntei tani uyalduulan hariulhiig hicheey.



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PostPosted: Jan.12.07 6:52 pm 
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hey GaM,

bas neg iim um bj bolj bna:

manai odon ornii clubiin talaar sonsson l bh, udahgui 2week dotor starparty gej um hiihiin. tend olon duran bh bolno, tiimees ta uuruu harj uzej bgad yamrhuu huchtei duran bwal iluu tand zohih we gedgiig medej awah bolomj shu!

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PostPosted: Jan.13.07 1:27 am 
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ttlc gishuund tailbarlaj bsn niitlelle end dawhar postlow; oilgomjgui um bwl asuugaarai!


hi ttlc,

bi chamd huwiin turshlagaasaa huwaaltshiig zuwshuurnu uu.

chinii heldeg zuw, hotod er n od harah hetsuu, gehdee 2zuiliig ahin neg awch uzeerei:

1. shuniin 3s hoish garaad uz, erunhiiduu utaa bagastsan, ailuud untstan gaigui bdg.
2.haranhui gazar oldno, gehdee medeej tas haranhui bish l dee. bi huwdaa 2r surguuliin hul bumbugiin talbairuu yawdag, shunu 3s hoish ih dawgui shu, chi neg oroldood uzeerei! zaawal hul bumbugiin talbai geltgui yamar negen gerel bagtai gazar zunduu bga. bur oldohgui bol zaawal huduu geltgui hotoos jaahan garaad l dawgui shu, hurel togootod bol oiroltsoo perfect bdg zarim night. gehdee medeej huduu bol hamgiin sain n gedegt sanal neg bna.

zurag awhiin umnu chi olon huchin zuiliig awch uzeh heregtei gj bodoj bna.

1. chinii dursleh tuhuurumj chin film camera u or digital camera yu? herwee film bol yamar hals awhaas ehsuuleed zunduu olon problem bii.
harin digital camera-n huwd astrophoto nileen hyazgaarlagdmal. uchir n alsiin tengeriin erhsiin bietuudiin gerel n tun siireg, hedii tanii camera-ii ccd, eswel film gereld medreg ch gesen tengeriin bietiin gerel heterhii siireg yum shu. tiimees tedgeer bietiin gerliig sain tsugluulj durslehiin tuld camera-iin hushgiig todorhoi udaan hugatsaagaar ongorhoi bailgaj gerel sain burtgegdeh bolomj olgoh yostoi. enehuu hugatsaag exposure time gdg, chi yamar negen astrophoto-in exp.time-g uzeerei, hedn sec-s ehleed hedn tsag hurtel udaan bdg. yagaad digital camera tohirdoggui we geheer edgeer camera n automatic udirdlagtai uchir hushig n udriin nuhtsuld l zurag awah zoriulaltaar hiigden 10sec deesh exposuretai bdaggui. ihenh n 4sec maximum. ene n zarim tod garig, nar, sarnii zurag awhad l hangalttai, deep sky object-g chadahgui.harin halsan buyu SLR(single lens reflec) camera nuud manual udirdlagtai bolhoor uuruu buh yumaa taaruulan awah bololtsootoi.

2. za tohiroh camera bla gej bodyo, tegwel daraagiin asuudal n steadiness buyu togtvortoi bdl. zurag awj bh exp.time-iin ued jaahan ch hudulguun bh yosgui, tiimees durangiin hul chin unheer sain bh yostoig anhaaraarai! exp.time-n ued jaahn l hudulguun uuswel zuerag chin blurred garna. herew chinii duran jijig bol hul n tiim ch sain bish bhda, tom bol erunhiiduu gaigui, zarim jijig duranguud salhind chichred bdg.

3.bas neg asuudal bol chinii heldgeer eyepiece-eegee cameraagaa zalgah yostoi. end hamgiin gol anhaarah zuil n focus!!! chi filmen camera or ccd camera ali n ch bai sain zurag awya gewel urd taliin lensiig n awbal best shu! awahgui ch bsn bolno, gehde tom yalgaatai. awaagui bol ch yahaw, awbal nariin focuslah heregtei, uuniig nileen yarwigtai umaar tootsdog minii C+-dr bichih gej oroldson neg prog bdg, awj boln bh.

4.ene 3 shiidegdlee gehed hamgiin etssiin big problem bna-ene n delhiin ergeltees hamaarsan oddin shiljih hudulguun yum. delhii tenhlegeeree oiroltsoo 30km/sec-n hurdtai ergedeg uunees uuden bidend tengeriin erhsuud bidniig toiron ergej bui met haragddag. ta gadaa garaad negen uuliin zurag awlaa gej bodyo, uul bairandaa l bj bh uchir udaan exp. ued gereld tsohiulhaas uur aih yum bhgui. getel tengeriin erhsuud bairandaa bhgui, tiimees tedgeeriin hudulguund zohitson dagaj huduldug mechanism bh heregtei! chi english-ei blgui, equatorial mount of telescope geed material uzeerei! tegej dagaj huduldug mechanismiig erunhiid n EQ buyu equatorial mount gedg. herew tiim um bhgui bol chinii gerel burtgegch yag l neg bairandaa, harin od maani hudluud yawaad ugnu, ur dun n u we gewl odnii zam n garsan zurag.

za tegeed ene bugdees neg ch gesen yum oilgson bh gej naidiya, herew oilgomjgui um bwl sain chuluudaarai, bi hicheen tailbarlah bolno! eswel chi uuruu net.-r basics of astrophoto gd haigaad uzeerei, space.com der hurtel zunduu article bga.

end bas neg um helie, chi telescope-ree zurag awna gesen, planetary photod bol bolno, deep sky-d bol demi gej zuwlue, uchir n telescope gedeg bol tengeriin maash jijighen hesgiig tatn harj bga, ter hesegt udaan hugatsaand, dagan zurag awna gedeg mash ih hetsuu, zurag nuud chin blurred garna, unless if u have zoriulaltiin telescope and astroccd!!! harin shuud camera-aaraa awah n iluu tom untsguur goe zurag gargadag.


bi mun 2 zurag postloy. deer helsen EQ mount n untei buguud, hiihed nileen tuwugtei, gewch humuus dan camera-deeree zoriulan uwurmuts mount hiisen bdg.

Image-enehuu shinleg sanaag barndoor mount gdg, ene neree um haiwal barih zaawar, ajillah zarchim n oldno, eshun nadaas awj bolno.
Image-end chi durangiin hudluh mechanismiig n ajiglaarai, yagaad zugeerl deeshee dooshoo, 2tiisheegee huduldug bish hundruulegch n tertei nariin bna gedgiig n.
Image-harin ene bol engii deesh doosh, 2tiish huduldur mechanism, uuniig alt-az mount gdg.
Image-uunees gadna fork mount gdg n ene. dawuu tal n EQ ch bolj bolno alt-az ch bolj bolno. minii tom duranguud ihewchlen fork.

ene 3 n: EQ, alt-az, fork n durangiin undsen mount. astrophoto durangaara awya gewel EQ or FORK 2in ali neg n bh yostoi.

enuunii daraa, ug mount chin tsagiin mechanismtei bh yostoi, tiim umgui bol guidescope, guideccd, computer orolt bh yostoi.



Gereliin huwd chini zuw gehdee hunii nud ulaan ungund yah ch ugui, uchir n dolgionii urt n hartsangui baga. tiimees ajiglalt hiideg humuus ulaan gerel awch yawdag, harin digitall camera-ii gerel ih hurts, gehdee narnii shil n ter zuuj bgad hamgaalj bolno.

mun 20-30bolj hunii nud haranhuid dasdag, ene n hunii huuhen haraanii hemjee tomorj buig helj bgam, uuruur helbel nudnii aperture ihseed tiimees olon budeg oddiig harna ur dund hund olon l od haragdna. jiriim ued hunii nudnii huhen haraani diameter oiroltsoo4-6mm harin haranhuid daschul 7-8mm bopltloo tomordog! minii huwiin turshlagaas nudee anin bh n terhuu 30min-g 20min bolgoj bh shig sanagddag(tehde batlagdaagui shu).

bas neg yum, nudee dasgahaas gadna, durangaa dasgah heregtei!!! ene mash chuhal uchir n tanai gert +20C bga gadaa minimum shunu bol -25-(-30)C, tegheer temperature-n uurchlult>40C. ene ued durangaa todorhoi hugatsaand gadaa tawj terhuu zuruug bagasgah heregtei, es tegwees 2 uur C-ai uchir 2uur hugarlin ultgegchtei ur dun n durs heterhii ih gyalalzaj, sarnisan hachin um bdg, zurag awhiin talaar yostoi yariltgui. ter zuruu>20C bol durang dor hayj 1tsag blga gdg, gewch bi uuriin hiideg durandaa computeriin cooleruud suulgasnaar terhuu hugatsaag 10min boltol n bagasgadag.

ingeed bicheed bwl awch uzeh um zunduu bga, bi odoo neg chuhliig bichie. TSANTAH!!! durandaa dew protecter uursduu hiihgui bol neg tom ayul ter shu! bi hiideg durandaa dew heater ashigladag.


IIM L AMARGUI AJIL DAA, GEHDEE HICHEEGEEREI BI CHADAH CHINEEGEERE TUSLAY!


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PostPosted: Jan.22.07 2:51 pm 
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manaihaan,

web belen bolloo!!!

ene udaad turshiltiin jurmaar http://www.freewebs.com/aac-mgl/ -end bairlaj bna! udahgui uuriin gesen domain-tei bolno oo.

za tegeed olon yum hiij duusgaagui, dutuu sajuu yumnuud zunduu bga, tedgeeriin ajild ta bugd oroltsoj bolno shu!

starparty-n medeelliig margaash tawina aa.

Vega


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manaihaan bas neg asuudal tulgarlaa,

ene week erunhiiduu ih burheg bna. 5dahiin shunu bol tselmeg bish "mostly cloudy" gej bna. yah we?

od harahgui bol starparty utgagui bolchihno...

daraa week bolgon hoishluulah uu? yu gej bodoj bna?

Vega


hariugaa "astronomy club of mongolia"-ruu bicheerei!!!!


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ttlc,

end todorhoi bicheed bgarai!

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starparty ene friday!!!

http://www.freewebs.com/aac-mgl/ orood uzeerei! eswel http://www3.asuultserver.com/forum/view ... hp?t=98434 iishee!

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AAAA Vegaa
Би хөдөө ажлаар яваад ерөөсөө амжихгүй юмаа. Та нар үнэн гоё явсан байна шд тэ? Уг нь хамгийн анхныхд нь явсан бол үнэн саак байхгүй юу? Ямар гоё азтай юм бэ? Удахгүй нэг хүн халит дурангаа зээлүүлхээр сайн харж авнаа. Цаашдаа аймар лаг дуран авнаа.


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sain baitsgaana uu odonoron sonirhogchidoo,

3/19nii ogloo NARNII HESEGCHILSEN HIRTELT UB hotoos haragdna. odonoron sonirhogch ta bugdig ajiglahig urialj bna!

minii bie margash UAO ochij ajiglaltand belded monday l UB-d ireh bololtoi.

ulaanbaatar hotod ugluunii nar mandah uer:

hirtelt ehlene: 8:28
orgil hirtelt: 9:29
hirtelt duusna: 10:32

narnii tseh mandal deerh hirtelt ehleh uein undur: 26*

neg iimerhuu l yum haragdna daa:
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amjilt husie,
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gehdee tiim ch sain bish yum shig unendee sonirholiin jurmaar l avtsiin
anh 12 toidoo ter hureltogootiin 20 cm iin refrector durangaar harah gej ochood uul garaad
amjiltgui butsaj bsiin tegeed neg uuruu harmaar sanagdaad huchin chadliig ni sain meddeggui

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2 jiliin umnu hungun tsagan hultei neg duran avch bsiin ter edee ih ch hardag baijee
gehdee tiim ch sain bish yum shig unendee sonirholiin jurmaar l avtsiin
anh 12 toidoo ter hureltogootiin 20 cm iin refrector durangaar harah gej ochood uul garaad
amjiltgui butsaj bsiin tegeed neg uuruu harmaar sanagdaad huchin chadliig ni sain meddeggui
sain uu,

chi ooriin durang clubin starparty-deer awaad irj bolno shu! bi uurin 2-3durang awch ochdog, tend tuhtai yariltsiya! er n bidni hereglej bga buhi l duran sonirhlin tuwshingih shude, UAO-n 20cm refractor ch gesen odoo ued sonirhlin tuwshingiin l jiriin neg duran. Yadaj 40cm-aas deesh tom duran l naad zahin jijig sudalgaand ashiglagdaj bolno.

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Vega, нэг инч-д 20x гэдэг чинь доод тал нь биз дээ? 30x, 40x, дээд тал нь 50x байдаг юм бишүү?

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Vega, нэг инч-д 20x гэдэг чинь доод тал нь биз дээ? 30x, 40x, дээд тал нь 50x байдаг юм бишүү?
]SaikhaNBayar 2la end hartswal humuust ch hereg bolj medeh yum end hartsaj baie,

achromatic objectived-25x, apochromatic objectived-40x ONOLIIN huwd zowshoordog yum. Ternees bish minii chamd helsen 1000T-nii lensend bol 20X hamgiin maximum. Lens geheer l bugdeere yag adilhan yum bish shude, lensnii chanar gej yum bna.

Uchir n gerel lenseer newtrehdee yag ter chigeeree hugardgu bhguiyu, lens chanraasaa hamaarad ug urj bui gereld prism shig uilchilj, hugalsan gerluudee yag neg tsegt focusladaggui. Yamar ch lensen d todorhoi hemjeenii aldaa bdg yum. Harin enehuu aldaag bagasgaj, tedgeer hugarsan gerluudiig ALI BOLOH neg tsegt tsugluulhin tuld objective hesegt 2(achromatic) buyu tuunees deesh(apochromatic) element nemdeg yum.

Uniin huwd udur shun shig zorootei, jishee n:
65mm-f/15 neg elementtei engin Feronon lens-1$
60mm-f/10 achromatic-neg flint neg crone-on 2elementtei lens-55$
55mm-f/8.5 apochromatic dawhar flint-cronen 4elementtei lens-430$ bnda.

edgeeriin iim bgagiin uchir n deer helsenchlen, jishe n apochromatic lens hedi jijig aperturetai, baga focal lengthtei ch olon mash sain chanariin elementtei objective uchir uusgej bui durs n barag l perfect gesen ug. Iim sain chanariin dursend sain usgult ugj boldog yum. Ternees bish nogoo helsen 1$-iin lensed tudi hemjeenii usgult ugchul ter lensnii uusgesen durs n diilehgui, hachin sarnisan budeg gerel l bolj duusna.

clear skies,
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Тэгэлгүй яахав ойлгож байна. Би тэр 1 долларын линз биш, энд чи ийм зүйл бичсэн болохоор асуусан юм.
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usgultiin huchiig aperture-iin 1inch burd 20x deeshgui gej onol n heldeg yum uuruur helbel 6inchiin durangiin optic max usgult=6*20=120x. uunees iluu usguwul dursnii resolution aldagdna.
Мэдээж телескоп хийж байгаа юм чинь achromatic байсан нь дээр. Би бас тэр 1000Т гэхээр нь ямар юм бол гэж гайхсан, нэг элементтэй байсан юм уу? Мэдсэнгүй. the telescope's maximum magnification is 40x to 60x (average = 50x) per inch of aperture
Мэдээж би achromatic линзний талаар ярьж байна л даа. Ихэнх рефракор ч ийм линзтэй байдаг байх... Тэгэхээр 25x гэдэг чинь арай бага санагдаад байна. Гэхдээ 25x гэвэл муу линздээ орох бишүү?

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Мэдээж би achromatic линзний талаар ярьж байна л даа. Ихэнх рефракор ч ийм линзтэй байдаг байх... Тэгэхээр 25x гэдэг чинь арай бага санагдаад байна. Гэхдээ 25x гэвэл муу линздээ орох бишүү?[/color][/b]
Sain bn, achromatic gedge ydaj medej bwl. Tegeed yag yamar achromatic we gedgee medjinu?..dotroo ih olon turul bii, une n ch yanz yanz, bas oldots n hariltsan adilgui. Mun ihenh refractor(70$-200$; 60mm>=aperture) dandaa l neg elementtei bdg yum. Gehdee neg element ch gesen olon yanz bdgig sanaarai.

Mun ih usguh tusam sain harna gej bodohoo boliochee!!! :hi:

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The telescope's maximum magnification is 40x to 60x (average = 50x) per inch of aperture

ene chin buruu huu min. Minii heleed bga ter 20X bol onoliin huwd yariad bga zuil, hezee ch amdral deer ideal lens gej bhgui uchir ter 20X-ees baga bdg yum. Minii chamd deer helj bsan yamar object harah geed bgagaa todorhoiloogui bj, shud usgultuur hemjuur hij bolohgui. Jishe n, Messier objectuudiig maximum 30X-50X usgultuur l hamgiin goe haragdna. Ternees bish soliotoi yum shig 100X, 200X-eer yu ch olj harahgui gedgiig sain oilgooroi. Deerees usgultuus gadna chi durangiinhaa FIELD OF VIEW-iig tootsoogui bj usgult yarih n bas buruu. Terentei chin uyaldaj usgult yarigddag yum.

Nemeed helhed, ajiglaad chinii nudend haragdah zuil chin zuwhun duran bish, chinii ooriin chin nudnii ajiglah chadwar, haranhuin adaptation, air turbulence geh met oor olon huchin zuilees shaltgaalna gedgiig medehed iluudehgui shu.

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sain u? nadad huuchnii 2 shirheg VHS camera baigaamaa. 8x optic osgolttei durantai yum baina. uuniig ashiglaad oir zuuriin sar mar ruu harchihaar duran hiij boloh bolov u? zaaval tusgai optic shaardlagatai uim bolov u? deer ued bi 2 nudnii duran ashiglaad ogtorguin duran hiih talaar unshij baisan yum bna.


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sain u? nadad huuchnii 2 shirheg VHS camera baigaamaa. 8x optic osgolttei durantai yum baina. uuniig ashiglaad oir zuuriin sar mar ruu harchihaar duran hiij boloh bolov u? zaaval tusgai optic shaardlagatai uim bolov u? deer ued bi 2 nudnii duran ashiglaad ogtorguin duran hiih talaar unshij baisan yum bna.
sarnii togoog 'gaigui' harhin tuld dor hayj 18x shugaman osgolt bh heregtei. Shud helhed ene lensuder duran hij bolohgui. Gehde ene lensudig nilen ondor chanarin okular baidlar ashiglaj bolno! :) Okular gej yu we gedgig der jaahn tailbarlasan bga oilgmjgui yum bwl asugarai. :)

Er n durang yugar ch hij boln. Hamgin gol n yag yumig goe harah, jishe n saran derh togoo sanchirin buslur, barhasbadin dagul, angaragin hoid tuil, narnii tolbo geh met 'goe' yumsig harhin tuld sain chanarin lens mon ugsralt bh heregtei. 2nudnii duran baitugai neg tomruldag shil, neg 1000Togrognii nudnii shiler muu chanarin duran hij bolno. Bi clubinhandaa duran hihig zahda hamgin anhnii durang n tim bdlar hilgesen. 3-4hun tim duran hisen bogod eronhido sarnii togoo n terig dund zergin chanrtai harna, gehde yag hunii husej bsn shig bhgui. Harin odoo manai clubinhan iluu turshlagajsan uchir, mon duran herhen ajilladag bolon yaj hih talar asudfludig undsende oilgoson uchir odoo endes nadad lens zahiad iluu sain chanarin duran hih gej bn.

Chi husej baiwal tedni adil engin hyamd lenser ter durang hij bolno, eswel shud nadad lens zahij bolno. Ene Monday bi lensude awna, ternes omno nadtai holbogdoj bolno.

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