TURBO гэж яг юу вэ??? /турбо, бов ... г.м/

[g.ganaas]

Benzin ch bai diesel ch bai motoruud ooriinhoo uusgesen vacuumaar hangalttai hemjeenii agaar sorj avch chaddaggyi l bhgyi yu. Teriig nuhuh gej buyu benzin diesel ali ch motor deer ajliin buteemjiig ni nehem gej l turbo tavidag shdee.

[MythBuster]

Benzin ch bai diesel ch bai motoruud ooriinhoo uusgesen vacuumaar hangalttai hemjeenii agaar sorj avch chaddaggyi l bhgyi yu. Teriig nuhuh gej buyu benzin diesel ali ch motor deer ajliin buteemjiig ni nehem gej l turbo tavidag shdee.

Gehdee minii oilgoj baigaagaar benzin motort turbo tavih n dieseld tavihaas hamaagui iluu baga ur duntei yum shig sanagdaad baigaa yum. Jishee n engiin benzind turbo tavih talaar yum yum bichij:
"To avoid detonation (premature ignition) you will need to lower the compression of the engine, and or restrict the turbo to a low boost threshold. (Low compression engines plus a turbo will also avoid some of the turbo lag problems inherent in most turbo applications.) The best turbos to add to a non turbo NASP (Naturally aspirated) engine are small with low boost levels. Another option you have is to fit a water injection kit to dampen the air charge and prevent detonation.
To lower the compression you can go with a re-bore and fit lower compression pistons, you can add a stroker kit to alter the compression ratio or for minor adjustments you could get a larger head and thicker head gasket thus increasing the cylinder size and reducing the compression ratio.
You need to aim for around a 7:1 compression ratio if you are adding a turbo, anything above 9:1 you will have problems. In all cases you should use the highest octane fuel that you can find as the higher the octane the more resistant the fuel is to engine knock."
Uund binzin-d turbo tavihiin tuld static compression ratio-g bagasgah heregtei gej bain tegehgui bol detonats ugnu. deer n N/A(naturally aspired) engine-d baga boosttei turbo tavih heregtei gej bain.
Za tegvel turbo yamar RPM-d ajilgaand ordog yum bol?
"при низких оборотах двигателя, когда турбокомпрессоры крутятся как детские вертушки и ничего, кроме шума и утечки масла, нe дают....параметры турбокомпрессора, который сжимает воздух, подобраны так, что только после того как скорость вращения двигателя превысит, например, 3000 об/мин, мощности его выхлопных газов хватит для раскрутки турбины до рабочего режима. До 3000 об/мин лопатки турбокомпрессора просто месят воздух и никакой работы не совершают. А вот после, например, 5000 об/мин лопатки турбины уже мешают воздушному потоку"
Deer n benzin hudulguurt utaa garah hooloi-nd dieselees hamaagui baga daralt uusdeg gedgiig bas sanuulchihya.
So, to cut the story short: it not straightforward as it seams. Medeej turbocharger ogt hereggui ed gej bi helehgui. "Saingui muu, Muugui sain gej baihgui" l gej heleh geed baigaa yum. Benzind turbo tavisnaar olon tolgoinii ovchin dagaldaj irne. Uund sevcha goloh, benzin goloh, motoriin tos goloh gm... Iim problem manai forumiin yamar topic dotor hamgiin ih bichij bain?

Sources:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... en&ct=clnk
Энциклопедия начинающего автомобилиста. Практические рекомендации
http://www.bigman.ru/note.php?id=380
http://www.modified.com/features/0606_s ... index.html
P.S. sorry for long monologue but the question is still open for discussion.

[g.ganaas]

Eroosoo l diesel motor chin shal ondoo zarchimtai motor. Diesel motoriin compressiig benzin motoriinhtoi haritsuulah yamar ch shaardlaga bhgyi gej bodoj bna. Diesel motor chin tulshee shahaj teslehiin tuld l tiim compresstei bga. Teriigee dagaad ondor ergelt avdaggyi. Audi Turbo diesel sport engine hurtel 5000k ergelt l avdag yum bn lee. Etsest ni mash tovchhondoo bol chinii heleed bgaag benzin motor ondor ergelteeree nuhchihdug gej bodoj bna. Turbo benzin mashinii boostiig medersnii daraa arai oor bodoltoi bolno baihaa.

[MythBuster]

Forced induction vs Naturally aspired -iin tuhai joohon yum nemeed unshla.
Minii gol sonirhood baisan asuult bol benzin hudulguuriin turbo efficiency baisan yum.
Pros
"Another way to look at it is the benifits of compression and boost. More compression makes the combustion process a little more efficient. More boost stuffs more air into the cylinder, leading to more combustable mass. In most cases, more combustable air/fuel creates much more power than a more efficient burn."
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2636439
http://hondaswap.com/turbo-information/ ... ion-29102/
Cons
1. Static compression bagasgasnaar low end torque bagasna.
"low end torque department due to the fact that it relies on the turbo for most of its power."
http://hondaswap.com/turbo-information/ ... ion-29102/
2.Static compression bagasgaj Dynamic compression nemsneer detonats uuseh ayultai
"When we talk about turbos and superchargers, the point at which an increase in static CR that can cause detonation is much lower than in all motor engines. The reason is : you are stuffing in more air into a closed container with boost. The cylinder pressures build up to a higher level faster. And so does temp. So the risk of detonation is much higher."
http://hondaswap.com/turbo-information/ ... ion-29102/
Detonatsiin asuudliig shiideh n:
http://www.misterfixit.com/deton.htm
Some basic understanding: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_ratio & http://www.axtellsales.com/RonsDocs/Mot ... wars2..pdf

[g.ganaas]

Yag ooriihoo oilgosnoo l bichihgyi bol baahan yum copydood tavichihaar chi hun unshih bolu da.

[MythBuster]

Sanal neg bain. Sonirholgui baival zaaval minii postudiig unshaad baih albagui l de. Moderatorinho %-d ustgachihsan ch erh n chamd baigaa. Minii %-d posting hiihdee oorinho subjective sanaa onoogoo heleed bain uu? turshlagaasaa huvaaltsaad bain uu? haa negen gazar unshsan yumnaasaa huvaaltsaad bain uu? teriigee todruulj baival zugeer yum shig sanagddag. Herev sanaa onoogoo helj baigaa bol terigee talbarlah, barimt factaar batalgaajuulbal zugeer baih (e.g. argument your statement). Herev unshsan yumnaasaa huvaaltsaj baigaa bol, eh survaljiig n zaaj baimaar sanagddag. imho shu (gomdoochihoogui baih gej naidya)

Yag ooriihoo oilgosnoo l bichihgyi bol....

Jishee n 2 hund neg text unshuulchihaad za odoo yu oilgosnoo bich gevel ter hoer yag adilhan yum bichij taarah uu? Hund ooriho sanaag shuud tulgah bish, bi iim yum unshaad iim yum oilgoloo geed biched yund n buruu bain aa?

[g.ganaas]

Gadaad helnii talaar yarij bna. Jishee ni oros hel meddeg hun baingiin gishuudiin dund 1-2 l bga. English bol evluuleed oilgochihdog hun 10-20 bga bh. Getel chi end iim yum bna gesnee l boon copy tavichdag. Harin busad ni ooriihooroo delgeruulj bicheed end bna geed linkiig ni tavidag. Zarim ni orchuulaad tavidag eniig chin l heleed bnaa. Sonirholgyidee bish harin ch heleed bgaa chin mash sonirholtoi bna. Daanch mash oilgomjgyi bna. Yag yu bodchood yu gej tailbarlah geed bgag chin bargiin hun oilgohoorgyi bn shu de. Gol ni chi dotroo mash zuv yum bodoj baij bolno. Ilerhiilehdee oilgomjgyi buruu bichvel tegeed ter zuiliin chin une tsene bhgyi bolno shu de. Mythbuster gishuun bol yaah argagyi auto expert baihaar hun gej boddog tiimdee ch autoexpert gedeg tsoltoi baigaa. Gehdee zarim advanced tuvshnii zuilsiig mash oilgomjgyi bichdeg. Hervee busdad oilgomjtoi sonirhol tatahuitsaar sanaagaa gargaj irvel manaihan bugd l heleltsej yariltsaad iluu ur buteeltei yaria urnono shu de. Bugdengiih ni medlegt ch heregtei yum da. Forum shu de ene chin. End negnee uguisgeed tsaashluulaad baih sonirholtoi hun bhgyi gej bodoj bna. /haaya neg ih medegchdiig es tootsvol/

[MythBuster]

.. Forum shu de ene chin. End negnee uguisgeed tsaashluulaad baih sonirholtoi hun bhgyi gej bodoj bna...

Benzin turbonii talaar unshhad Engiin (Naturally aspirated) hudulguur agaaraa bainga dutuu sordog gej bichsen baisan tuuniig n nuhuh gej turbo/supercharger tav'dag gej tailbarlasan. Gehdee, minii bodloor, ene davii tal n zuvhun havhlaga buren neelttei baih ued l ach tus n gaah baih. Jishee n benzin hudulguurt baga-dund ergeltend main throttle tertei tergui buren ongoidoggui uchraas throttle iin baga zavsaraar daralttai hii shahah, draltgui buren neelttei throttle-oor damjin unguruh agaariin hemjee adil yum gej oilgood baigaa. Dieseliin huvid bol iim problem baihgui, yaagaad gevel diesel-d throttle baihgui, deer n iluu agaar shahchihla geed detonats uguhgui. Iim uchraas dieseld turbocharger tavih n iluu hyalbar, ur duntei bogood iluu tugeemel taaralddag yum bain aa gej %-da oilgoson (imho).

[Mana]

intercooler nemj hiij bsan turshlagatai hun bna uu?

[БИЛ]

intercooler nemj hiij bsan turshlagatai hun bna uu?

oorih dre nemeed uu. bur bhgui bhad n nemj hiihnuu.

[Очки]

bhgui bhad ni hiicheed bgaan. odoo hood-ee tavisan bgaa bhda.

[БИЛ]

bhgui bhad ni hiicheed bgaan. odoo hood-ee tavisan bgaa bhda.

zooz. odo huiterch bhad intercoolerni hereg bgamuda.

[Очки]

za tgd daraa jil hergteishde. QD3.2 yum bgaan

[hutuch]

mana ih daichin uzej bgn bna daa. zawtai bol hamtarmaar bna. daanch zaw alga. intercooleriig haanaa bairluulsiin?

[Очки]

моторон дээрээ л хийхээр байрлаж бсанда.

[БИЛ]

моторон дээрээ л хийхээр байрлаж бсанда.

neg mor frontmound hihgui.

[Mana]

hamar ni yum bagtaahdaa ih taaruuhan yumaa. lav l il gargadaggui l yum bol FMIC bagtaah zaigui.

[БИЛ]

hamar ni yum bagtaahdaa ih taaruuhan yumaa. lav l il gargadaggui l yum bol FMIC bagtaah zaigui.

stock cooler bizde te. tegul jijig yum chin haa saigui chihjich bolishd. pod krilo nii urd ch yumuu.

[Mana]

oort ni ug ni IC bdaggui yum. Pajeroniihiig hiij bgaam.

[kos]

tegvel deer ni zoohoos oor argagui yum bn sh dee.4m40-n radiator ni terranogiin urd chiheed bagtahgui biz
hamraa setleed l byazhan gar ajilbar hiigeed l boloh ni dee.

[Mana]

byatshan gej bolohgui bnaa

[БИЛ]

byatshan gej bolohgui bnaa

hehe intercooler bairlulahch ydargatai ajillldaa. tarahgui bol .

[khakmn]

Uvul bolj bgaa geed mashinii kopudan deerh intercooler-n nuhiig ni yumaar taglachuul zugeer uu? Neg hun odoo naadahaa buglusun ni deer gej zuvluhiin...

[БИЛ]

Uvul bolj bgaa geed mashinii kopudan deerh intercooler-n nuhiig ni yumaar taglachuul zugeer uu? Neg hun odoo naadahaa buglusun ni deer gej zuvluhiin...

haha intercooler dotor yu guine gj helj baihin ter hun chin. tosol l bhda te. kk .

[Очки]

tosol guideg bsan bol bugulchih l gej zuvluh blaa. haramsaltai ni ter dunduur chin hooson bdiishde. yuu ch baihgui.... baihgui, haatsiin... meedku...

[khakmn]

Uvul bolj bgaa geed mashinii kopudan deerh intercooler-n nuhiig ni yumaar taglachuul zugeer uu? Neg hun odoo naadahaa buglusun ni deer gej zuvluhiin...

haha intercooler dotor yu guine gj helj baihin ter hun chin. tosol l bhda te. kk .

haluun dulaan orond bol bainga, manai zun bol bolno... gol ni uvliin huitend ternii hereg gej yuruusuu baihgui, toos shoroo oruulj baisnaas buglutsun ni deer gesen sanaa yumuu da. Za haluun yued yahuu hurgudug yum baij, harin huiten yued hurguhgui ni medeej bolovch esregeeree mashin hurdan halah yavtsad saad bolj nemer tusaa ugdug bolov uu yadag bol? Yur ni uvul intercooler-ee bugludug hun nadaas uur bdiin bolov uu? kkk baihgui bol bugluhuu boliloo