tseverledeg ni bhaa, shalgahad chin iim unetei bish, gehdee odoogoor porsunk tseverlegch ajillahgui bgaa gesen. tseverlehed ter tavitsaa l bolno gesen /80/Mana написал: tegdeg gesen. MONNIS deer 80.000 boldog gesen
TURBO гэж яг юу вэ??? /турбо, бов ... г.м/
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4x4 deer shalgadag yum bna lee.Apparatand hiigeed shalgaj bsan
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ooroo salgaj bgd shalgaj chadah boluu. dulaarahaar neg uzeed aldaya bz. tsohison motornii forsunk shalgaj toglohod aldah yum yu bhaw. compressor-r shalgaj boloh l bh daa...?
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Butkuee. Yag benzin nasostai ijil daralt ogno tegeed buh forsunkiin tsatssan benzin ni yag ijil hugatsaand ijil hemjeetei baij chadah eseh. Bas tsatsaj bui ued ni motortoi ijil daralttai orchin uusgej chadhuu. Deerees ni computer hedii her hugatsaand hedii her hugatsaatai neej haaj bgaag tohiruulah geh met asuudal bga. Tegj l shalgahgyi bol shalgaad ch demii.hutuch написал:ooroo salgaj bgd shalgaj chadah boluu. dulaarahaar neg uzeed aldaya bz. tsohison motornii forsunk shalgaj toglohod aldah yum yu bhaw. compressor-r shalgaj boloh l bh daa...?
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infinite написал:паладинтай свечийг нь энгийн свечагаар сольчихвол шатахуун зарцуулалт багасах болов уу,xvc написал:Хэ хэ. Турбо гэж юуг хэлдэгийг техникийн хэлээр тайлбарлавал дотоод шаталтын хөдөлгүүрийн зарчимыг тайлбарлахаас их цаг гарна. Маш бүдүүлгээр хэлбэл нэг хүчтэй сэнсээр ажлын холимогийг арай өөр найрлагатайгаар илүү их даралттайгаар шахаж өгч байна л гэсэн үг. Моторын эргэлтээр байнга үлээгээд байна гэсэн үг. Гаргаж байгаа энерги тэр хэмжээгээр ихэснэ. Турбо тавина гэнээ, хаха. Турбо компрессортой мотор үйлдвэрээсээ ажиллах программ, шахалтын зэрэг, түлшний систем, свеча, тосолгооны эргэлтийн зам гээд бүх юм нь өөр. Тэгээд капот дор чинь тэрэнд зориулсан онгорхой цоорхой байхгүй. Турбо мотор тавиад ч зөндөө юм солих ажил гарна. Зүгээр турботой машин авсан нь дээр. Түлш хэмнэдэг гэв үү, чадал нэмэгдүүлж байгаа л бол түлш зарцуулалт ихсэх нь физикийн хууль. Максимал чадал, мушгих момент бүгд өснө. Хөөргөөр гал хөөрөгдвөл нүүрс хурдан шатна аа даа. Дизель бензин моторт аль альд нь турбин байж болно. Бензин моторт байгаа бол ихэнхдээ спорт загвар. Энэ тохиолдолд тэр хэмжээний багтаамжтай энгийн мотороос чадал нь бараг 2 дахин нэмэгдэнэ. Жишээ нь: Subaru Impreza WRX, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo г.м. Давуу тал нь моторын багтаамжийг нэмэхгүйгээр чадлыг өсгөж байна л гэсэн үг, ихэнхдээ тодорхой хурдтай эргэлтийн хэмжээнд хүрэхээрээ турбин ажиллаж эхэлдэг, тэгэхээр бага хаазтай явбал энгийн мотор л гэсэн үг. Миний бодлоор бол бензин турбо монголд тохиромжгүй. Яагаад гэхээр зөвхөн бүрэн синтетик масло, үнэтэй платинум свеч, хамгийн гол нь 98 түүнээс дээш октантай бензин хэрэглэхийг үйлдвэрлэгч нь зөвлөдөг. Тэгээд ч тэр хурдыг гаргах зам монголд байхгүй.
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17' обуд дээр 255-45-17 гэсэн хэмжээтэй хаймартай
паладинтай свечатай,
2000cc мотортой, бүдүүн яндантай,
машин дунджаар 2000-2500 моторын эргэлттэй яваад байхад 100км-д хэдэн литр шатахуун зарцуулдгийн бол?
Би бодохдоо том дугуйтай бол спидометр явалт бага заах байх гэж бодож байна. бас өргөн дугуй үрэлтийн эсэргүүцэл ихтэй гэж ойлгоод байгаа. тэгээд 100-д 15-18 литр шатахуун хийлгээд байх шиг байна. 95 хийж үздэг юм уу
chiniih yamar mashin yum? Platinium sveche tomor sevche modon sevche yalgaa baihgui shtee. wrx iin turbo lav motoriin ergelt 3-4 davhaar ordog, ugaasaa medegddeg, suff geel alga boldog harin 92 95 iin huvid bol 95 hiivel oilgomjtoi buur nisne. motord ch sain nolootoi. Minii wrx d 92 hiiheer shatalt n dutuu yavagddag n medegddeg, yandangaas n ih utaa garah geel , huch n 95 aa bodvol sul bdag. 92 lav gishgeed 15 havitsaa iddeg syntetic tos hiihgui bol harin boldogguim bnalee.
Re: TURBO GEJ YAG YU BNA AA
Bi neg yum asuuh gesen yumaa. 4M40-n turbo ni haaz 2 dohood ireheeree isgerch duugaraad baigaan. Turbo-g solilgui zasaj boldog yum bolov uu. Benzineer ugaadag gej unen bolov uu? Isgerch duugaraad baihad ni unaad yavaad baival bas oor yum humaa evdelchih bolov uu?
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наадах чинь болхоор Turbo ний илүүдэр хий гаргах ч гэдийн тэр ажилхаарайл эсгэрээл гоё ш д
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dugarch l baival sain. sens ni sain ergeed turbo chini sain ajillaj baina gesen ug shd, jrrrrrr geel ....bold_www написал:Bi neg yum asuuh gesen yumaa. 4M40-n turbo ni haaz 2 dohood ireheeree isgerch duugaraad baigaan. Turbo-g solilgui zasaj boldog yum bolov uu. Benzineer ugaadag gej unen bolov uu? Isgerch duugaraad baihad ni unaad yavaad baival bas oor yum humaa evdelchih bolov uu?
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Huush nzuda crestra 105 d 2.0 motortoi cresta d turbo tawij bolhuu ain teriig neg aytaihnaar tailbarlaad uguuch
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minii tereg TD27T turbo diesel l dee. end tend yum hum uzej yavahad intercooler hiij bolmoor haragdaad bh yum. Hiichuul davuu tal gej bgaa bolov uu?
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off road tonoglol dotor bichchihlee.Mana написал:minii tereg TD27T turbo diesel l dee. end tend yum hum uzej yavahad intercooler hiij bolmoor haragdaad bh yum. Hiichuul davuu tal gej bgaa bolov uu?
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turbo toi hodolguurtei ulsuudad turbo timer hereglehiig zovloj bn.
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INTERCOOLER hodolguuriin chadliig 3-10% nemne.mmbbb написал:Mana написал:minii tereg TD27T turbo diesel l dee. end tend yum hum uzej yavahad intercooler hiij bolmoor haragdaad bh yum. Hiichuul davuu tal gej bgaa bolov uu?
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tsaanaasaa turbogui bol chinii mashind turbo tavih bolomjgui. toyota iin 2.5 hodolguuruuded n bgaa.AAkmeT написал:Huush nzuda crestra 105 d 2.0 motortoi cresta d turbo tawij bolhuu ain teriig neg aytaihnaar tailbarlaad uguuch
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Ene sedveer "XVC" gishuunii tailbarlasand oor nemej heleh yum barag alga. Ih saihan tailbaralsan bain.
Turbotoi mashinii edelgeenii talaar gantshan yum nemej helhed. Turbo bol "toos sorogch" gesen ug. Atmosferiin daraltaar yavdag mashinaas hamaagui iluu ih agaar sordo uchraas agaar shuugchiig oir oirhoi solidgui yum aa gehed tseverleer uleelgee/soruulaad baih heregtei. Agaariin shuur solihod Km -iim guilt hamaagui gedgiig anhaarah heregtei.
Nadad iim neg yum tohioldoj baisan. Govi, havar yavaad irsen mashin hotod zuv zugeer yavaad baisan, huduu zamd garaad gishgeed ehelsen chin intercooler iin dor, soroh hooloi deerh havhlagnii deeguur motoriin tos sagaad ehelsen. Tiim deeguur motoriin tos yaahleeree sagdag bilee gej tolgoigoo gashilgaj baigaad uchiriig n ologui ter chigeer n yavaad irsen. Daraa n uchiriig n olson chin agaariin shuugch bituursenees bolood soroh hoiloond siireg orchin uusej, dutagdaj baigaa agaaraa turbogiin gol, sal'nik hoeriin zavsaraar motoriin tostoi agaar sorchihson baisan. Ter tos n agaartai hamt ter deeguur ochij havhlaga deer buugaad bolj taarsan.
Agaariin shuugchiig oir oirhon soliood bainaa geheer bs nogoo tooldog n hetsuu, ter tusmaa unetei shuur hergeldeg bol. Minii bodloor hyamd agaar shuugchtei, oiroltsoo motoriin bagtaamjtai motoriin shuuriig gertei n hamt avaad tav'chihad neg ih muu yum baihgui baih.
Turbotoi mashinii edelgeenii talaar gantshan yum nemej helhed. Turbo bol "toos sorogch" gesen ug. Atmosferiin daraltaar yavdag mashinaas hamaagui iluu ih agaar sordo uchraas agaar shuugchiig oir oirhoi solidgui yum aa gehed tseverleer uleelgee/soruulaad baih heregtei. Agaariin shuur solihod Km -iim guilt hamaagui gedgiig anhaarah heregtei.
Nadad iim neg yum tohioldoj baisan. Govi, havar yavaad irsen mashin hotod zuv zugeer yavaad baisan, huduu zamd garaad gishgeed ehelsen chin intercooler iin dor, soroh hooloi deerh havhlagnii deeguur motoriin tos sagaad ehelsen. Tiim deeguur motoriin tos yaahleeree sagdag bilee gej tolgoigoo gashilgaj baigaad uchiriig n ologui ter chigeer n yavaad irsen. Daraa n uchiriig n olson chin agaariin shuugch bituursenees bolood soroh hoiloond siireg orchin uusej, dutagdaj baigaa agaaraa turbogiin gol, sal'nik hoeriin zavsaraar motoriin tostoi agaar sorchihson baisan. Ter tos n agaartai hamt ter deeguur ochij havhlaga deer buugaad bolj taarsan.
Agaariin shuugchiig oir oirhon soliood bainaa geheer bs nogoo tooldog n hetsuu, ter tusmaa unetei shuur hergeldeg bol. Minii bodloor hyamd agaar shuugchtei, oiroltsoo motoriin bagtaamjtai motoriin shuuriig gertei n hamt avaad tav'chihad neg ih muu yum baihgui baih.
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COMPREX гэж яг юу байнаа???
Turbotei, superchargeruud engiin motoroosoo iluu baga shahaltiin zeregtei baih bogood tuuniige turbogoor nuhuj avdag gej ochigdor nomnoos unshla. Jishee n tsilindriin geometriin %-d engiin benzin hudulguur 9-10 iin shahaltiin zeregtei baihad turbote n 8 tei baidag genee. Za tegeed ene n am'dral deer yu gesen ug ve gedgiig, oorinhoo MT-tei, Turbo diesel Pajerogoor Hamriin hiid orohdoo hiisen ajiglaltan deer tulguurlaad tailbaralhiig orold'yo.
Ajiglalt: baga ergeltendee huch muutai, neg tormozolson l bol zaaval aragaa hundruuluuleh geed baidag. Hund araandaa hiigeed 3myanga gargaad irheer Tutbo boost n ehleed amarhan hungun araandaa oruuluulah geed baidag. Richagtaigaa baingiin zuuraldaastai.
Tailbar: turbo n motoriin baga ergeltend buteemj muutai, barag nemergui baidag tiim uchraas teriig n nuhuh gej davhar supercharger tavidag. Baga ergeltendee, hudulguurinhu shahaltiin zergee nuhuj chadahgui baigaa ene motoriin ergeltiin intervald turbo diesel n engiin motoroos muu chadaltai baij taarah nee.
Dugnelt: turbo bol hotiin hudulguund, nuhchaatai zamd ur buteel muutai yum shig bain. Harin holiin, shuluun zamd bol oor hereg. Turbotei mashin zasmal zam deer garaad davhihaaraa tulsh zartsuulalt n ers buurdagiig ta buhne anzaarsan baih.
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A good alternative for turbochargers http://imagineauto.wordpress.com/2007/0 ... rchargers/ is found in the 1988 Mazda 626 Capella.
Ajiglalt: baga ergeltendee huch muutai, neg tormozolson l bol zaaval aragaa hundruuluuleh geed baidag. Hund araandaa hiigeed 3myanga gargaad irheer Tutbo boost n ehleed amarhan hungun araandaa oruuluulah geed baidag. Richagtaigaa baingiin zuuraldaastai.
Tailbar: turbo n motoriin baga ergeltend buteemj muutai, barag nemergui baidag tiim uchraas teriig n nuhuh gej davhar supercharger tavidag. Baga ergeltendee, hudulguurinhu shahaltiin zergee nuhuj chadahgui baigaa ene motoriin ergeltiin intervald turbo diesel n engiin motoroos muu chadaltai baij taarah nee.
Dugnelt: turbo bol hotiin hudulguund, nuhchaatai zamd ur buteel muutai yum shig bain. Harin holiin, shuluun zamd bol oor hereg. Turbotei mashin zasmal zam deer garaad davhihaaraa tulsh zartsuulalt n ers buurdagiig ta buhne anzaarsan baih.
Recommended reading:
A good alternative for turbochargers http://imagineauto.wordpress.com/2007/0 ... rchargers/ is found in the 1988 Mazda 626 Capella.
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Zuv, dieseliin shahaltiin zereg 20-22 baidag gej nomon deer bain. Deer minii bichsen n engiin benzin vs. turbotei benzin hodolguuriin shahaltiin zeregiig bichsen yum.Mana написал:Diesel-iinh 20 orchim bdaggui bil uu?
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НЕФРЕТ-н бичлэг дээр нэг юм нэмээд бичие.NeFReT написал: Турбоны шахалтыг бүүст гээд байгаам.
Турбо хэрхэн шахаж байна гэдгийг мэдэхийн тулд Бүүст метр гээч юмыг тавьдгийн.
Бүүстийг Баараар хэмждэг. 1 бар гэх мэт. даралтын хэмжигдэхүүн шүү дээ
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/ ... -meter.jpg
Ихэнх ТУРБО БҮҮСТ МЕТР дээр kPa гэж байдаг. kPa Гэдэг нь алдарт ПАСКАЛ ахын нэр юм.
100kPa = 1 bar,
Эндээс 1 кРа = 0.01 агаартай тэнцүү гэсэн үг. НЕФРЕТ бидэн 2н зүйлийг хараад өөрийнхөө БҮҮСТ МЕТР-г харж байгаад хэр их агаар урсгаад нисэж байгаагаа тооцоолж болно шүү дэ
Гүехэн ус далай болохгүй...
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ухааныг маань тэлсэнд баярлалаа.Alias написал:НЕФРЕТ-н бичлэг дээр нэг юм нэмээд бичие.NeFReT написал: Турбоны шахалтыг бүүст гээд байгаам.
Турбо хэрхэн шахаж байна гэдгийг мэдэхийн тулд Бүүст метр гээч юмыг тавьдгийн.
Бүүстийг Баараар хэмждэг. 1 бар гэх мэт. даралтын хэмжигдэхүүн шүү дээ
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/ ... -meter.jpg
Ихэнх ТУРБО БҮҮСТ МЕТР дээр kPa гэж байдаг. kPa Гэдэг нь алдарт ПАСКАЛ ахын нэр юм.
100kPa = 1 bar,
Эндээс 1 кРа = 0.01 агаартай тэнцүү гэсэн үг. НЕФРЕТ бидэн 2н зүйлийг хараад өөрийнхөө БҮҮСТ МЕТР-г харж байгаад хэр их агаар урсгаад нисэж байгаагаа тооцоолж болно шүү дэ
тэгээд энийг үздээ. англиар piston slap болцон байна гээд байхын. техникийн хэл мэддэг нь яг яачиж, яаж янзлах уу гэдгийг нь хэлээд өгөөч хө. минийх биш л дээ, манай найзынх
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Re: TURBO гэж яг юу байнаа???
IHI Turbos - ene turbonii medeelel ni subarutai nuhduud bas hereg bolj medene
VF22
This turbo has the highest output potential of all of the IHI VF series turbos and is the best choice for those who are looking for loads of top end power. The top end power however, does not come without a cost. The VF22 spools significantly slower than the rest of the IHI models due to the larger P20 exhaust housing and large 40 mm compressor wheel. it is much less suited for daily driving than some of the other models. Although the largest VF series turbo, the VF22 is not quite optimal for stroked engines or those who wish to run more than 20PSI of boost. Utilizes a standard ballbearing center design. Recommended for use on cars with significant modifications and where flow capacity is more important then response time. Expect flows around 490 CFM at 18.0 PSI
VF23
This turbo is considered a great all-around turbo. Like the VF22 it utilizes the largest P20 exhaust housing. This housing is mated with a smaller compressor housing of the of the VF24 for fast response and excellent low and mid-range performance. It does not have the same top end power of the VF22, but spools up significantly quicker. Standard ball bearing center section. Excellent bolt-on replacement for the standard WRX turbo on cars without any other major modifications. Expect flows around 430 CFM at 18 PSI.
VF24
This turbo shares its compressor housing with the VF23 however, this housing is mated with a smaller (P18) exhaust side. The smaller characteristics of this turbo allow it to provide ample bottom end power and quick spool. This turbo is very popular for Imprezas with automatic transmissions and Group N rally cars. Not recommended for stroker engines or engines with high boost as turbo is small and can over speed. Best turbo for cars that want the best bottom end and least lag. Expect flows around 425 CFM at 18 PSI
VF28
This turbo came standard on the STi Version 5.It is absolutely identical to the VF24. In terms of overall size, it is smaller than the VF22, VF30 and VF34, and about same size as the VF23. Expect flows around 425 CFM at 18 PSI
VF29
This Turbo is nearly identical to the VF24, with the same compressor and exhaust housings. However the compressor wheel in the VF29 is has been changed slightly. The changes made to the compressor wheel in this model are generally viewed as improvements, and as such this unit is typically chosen over the VF24. Has a different location for the pressure hose on the waste gate actuator Expect flows around 425 CFM at 18 PSI
VF30
The VF30 is commonly considered the best bang for the buck turbo in the IHI VF series line. A relatively new model the VF30 features the same exhaust housing as the VF24 (P18) but a larger compressor side similar to the VF22. The compressor inducer is 47.90mm. The combination of these two parts results in increased output potential without the lag associated with the VF22. Utilizes a sleeve type bearing design. Although it doesn't offer the top end supremacy of the VF22, the VF30 is a great compromise between these unit and the quicker spooling models. This is the ideal turbo for the average customer looking for fast excellent mid-range performance and response. This is not a ball bearing turbo as it utilizes a sleeve type design. Expect flows around 460 CFM at 18.0 PSI
VF34
The VF34 is nearly identical to the VF30, with the same exhaust housing and compressor inducer size. However the VF34 goes back to the ball bearing design, and in doing so achieves full boost approximately 500RPM sooner than the comparable VF30. The VF34 is a more recent IHI design and as such costs slightly more than its counterpart. Top end performance and maximum output are identical to the 30. Expect flows around 460 CFM at 18.0 PSI
VF35
The VF35 utilizes the same compressor housing as the VF34 however it also features a divided thrust or offset ball bearing design. The smaller P15 exhaust housing for quicker spool up and a slightly more limited top end. The compressor inducer size is the same as a VF30/or 34 turbocharger.
VF-36 - spec-C turbo - ball bearing and titanium compressor wheel. Twin scroll turbo.
VF-37 - standard ver8 turbo - sleeve bearing. Twin scroll turbo
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VF22
This turbo has the highest output potential of all of the IHI VF series turbos and is the best choice for those who are looking for loads of top end power. The top end power however, does not come without a cost. The VF22 spools significantly slower than the rest of the IHI models due to the larger P20 exhaust housing and large 40 mm compressor wheel. it is much less suited for daily driving than some of the other models. Although the largest VF series turbo, the VF22 is not quite optimal for stroked engines or those who wish to run more than 20PSI of boost. Utilizes a standard ballbearing center design. Recommended for use on cars with significant modifications and where flow capacity is more important then response time. Expect flows around 490 CFM at 18.0 PSI
VF23
This turbo is considered a great all-around turbo. Like the VF22 it utilizes the largest P20 exhaust housing. This housing is mated with a smaller compressor housing of the of the VF24 for fast response and excellent low and mid-range performance. It does not have the same top end power of the VF22, but spools up significantly quicker. Standard ball bearing center section. Excellent bolt-on replacement for the standard WRX turbo on cars without any other major modifications. Expect flows around 430 CFM at 18 PSI.
VF24
This turbo shares its compressor housing with the VF23 however, this housing is mated with a smaller (P18) exhaust side. The smaller characteristics of this turbo allow it to provide ample bottom end power and quick spool. This turbo is very popular for Imprezas with automatic transmissions and Group N rally cars. Not recommended for stroker engines or engines with high boost as turbo is small and can over speed. Best turbo for cars that want the best bottom end and least lag. Expect flows around 425 CFM at 18 PSI
VF28
This turbo came standard on the STi Version 5.It is absolutely identical to the VF24. In terms of overall size, it is smaller than the VF22, VF30 and VF34, and about same size as the VF23. Expect flows around 425 CFM at 18 PSI
VF29
This Turbo is nearly identical to the VF24, with the same compressor and exhaust housings. However the compressor wheel in the VF29 is has been changed slightly. The changes made to the compressor wheel in this model are generally viewed as improvements, and as such this unit is typically chosen over the VF24. Has a different location for the pressure hose on the waste gate actuator Expect flows around 425 CFM at 18 PSI
VF30
The VF30 is commonly considered the best bang for the buck turbo in the IHI VF series line. A relatively new model the VF30 features the same exhaust housing as the VF24 (P18) but a larger compressor side similar to the VF22. The compressor inducer is 47.90mm. The combination of these two parts results in increased output potential without the lag associated with the VF22. Utilizes a sleeve type bearing design. Although it doesn't offer the top end supremacy of the VF22, the VF30 is a great compromise between these unit and the quicker spooling models. This is the ideal turbo for the average customer looking for fast excellent mid-range performance and response. This is not a ball bearing turbo as it utilizes a sleeve type design. Expect flows around 460 CFM at 18.0 PSI
VF34
The VF34 is nearly identical to the VF30, with the same exhaust housing and compressor inducer size. However the VF34 goes back to the ball bearing design, and in doing so achieves full boost approximately 500RPM sooner than the comparable VF30. The VF34 is a more recent IHI design and as such costs slightly more than its counterpart. Top end performance and maximum output are identical to the 30. Expect flows around 460 CFM at 18.0 PSI
VF35
The VF35 utilizes the same compressor housing as the VF34 however it also features a divided thrust or offset ball bearing design. The smaller P15 exhaust housing for quicker spool up and a slightly more limited top end. The compressor inducer size is the same as a VF30/or 34 turbocharger.
VF-36 - spec-C turbo - ball bearing and titanium compressor wheel. Twin scroll turbo.
VF-37 - standard ver8 turbo - sleeve bearing. Twin scroll turbo
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Re: TURBO гэж яг юу вэ???
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*Blow Off Valves* - The Basics of Blow Off Valves, Bypass Valves & Hybrid Valves
There seems to be some misconceptions about the way these things work. Most people new to turbocharging are just looking for the additional sound. So I figure I'll do my best to clear things up in the simplest way possible without getting too technical. Feel free to let me know if I need to add/address anything!
What is the function of these valves? A turbocharger compresses air with the help of exhaust gases... Just because you let your foot off the gas, that doesn't mean boost building has stopped. That excess boost has to go SOMEWHERE. The duty of the factory Bypass Valve is to recycle or re-route this air back to the intake tract (more specifically, the turbo inlet hose). Atmospheric, or Blow Off Valves vent to atmosphere, and Hybrids will do a bit of both. First, I will post diagrams I mocked up, and go from left to right through the illustrations, describing each condition with each type of valve. This is intended to illustrate the mechanical inner workings of the valves. Then I will write a little more about the function and why to stay away from Atmospheric valves. Hopefully I'll be able to demonstrate WHY a BOV can be potentially harmful, while BPVs and Hybrids may not be.
STOCK BPV:

* When the throttle is open - The piston is not under pressure, so the compressed air from the turbo flows right through.
* When the throttle is closed at low boost levels (Example: Shifting around 2200 RPM) - The piston is under light pressure, and the stock spring is not very strong, so that excess air is effectively routed back to the intake tract. (The MAF sensor expects this excess air to be plumbed back to the intake, so the ECU demands more fuel to balance the A/F ratio.)
* When the throttle is closed at high boost levels (Example: Shifting around 4500 RPM) - The piston is under heavy pressure, so that excess air is effectively routed back to the intake tract. (The MAF sensor expects this excess air to be plumbed back to the intake, so the ECU demands more fuel to balance the A/F ratio.)
ATMOSPHERIC BOV:

* When the throttle is open - The piston is not under pressure, so the compressed air from the turbo flows right through.
* When the throttle is closed at low boost levels (Example: Shifting around 2200 RPM) - The piston is under light pressure, and the since the spring is heavier in aftermarket applications, the excess air creates a back-pressure by having nowhere to go other than back where it came from... The turbo's compressor wheel receives resistance and can stall. This is referred to as Compressor Surge. This can seriously damage your turbo over time. The second ill effect is that your ECU has demanded fuel, but that air is not routed back to the intake, thus causing an extremely rich moment between the shift (Often resulting in a fire ball out the exhaust in cat-less application).
* When the throttle is closed at high boost levels (Example: Shifting around 4500 RPM) - The piston is under heavy pressure, and the piston moves far enough to expose the opening and vents that excess boost off to the atmosphere. This creates a very rich moment during the shift, because your ECU has demanded fuel, but that air is not routed back to the intake, again causing an extremely rich moment between the shift (Often resulting in a fire ball out the exhaust).
**Additional Notes** - If the valve is adjusted to a lighter spring tension, you will effectively prevent the stalling, but it will also allow the piston to push too easily creating boost leak, before you even reach your target boost pressures. Now you may think you have a "perfectly tuned" the valve.. But this is VERY unlikely, because boost pressures vary. Your valve's spring will ALWAYS be too strong or too tight. Causing boost leak, or compressor Surge, and always leading to that rich mixture between shifts.
HYBRID or 50/50 BOV:

* When the throttle is open - The piston is not under pressure, so the compressed air from the turbo flows right through.
* When the throttle is closed at low boost levels (Example: Shifting around 2200 RPM) - The piston is under light pressure, the piston is only pushed far enough to reveal the first opening which routes the excess boost to flow back to the intake. (Just like stock)
* When the throttle is closed at high boost levels (Example: Shifting around 4500 RPM) - The piston is under heavy pressure, and the piston moves far enough to expose both openings: theoretically this satisfies the plumb back to the intake, and then vents off any additional boost off to the atmosphere.
**Additional Notes** - The idea behind a Hybrid valve is simple and effective. It's got two openings. One to plumb back to the intake, and one to vent to atmosphere. The Vent opening is further back than the Intake opening, so that under light load and light boost levels, the valve functions EXACTLY like a by pass valve. But once you're shifting under full boost, there is so much pressure that the piston is pushed even further back revealing BOTH openings. Theres only so much boost that first opening can plumb back in that moment, so the rest is vented off to the atmosphere.
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The Mechanics of it all: The movement of the piston isn't entirely dependent on Spring Tension alone. One of the largest contributing factors to the function of the BPV is pressure differential between the intake tract and intake manifold. This applies to all the valves mentioned above. Basically, when the vehicle is under boost with your foot to the floor, the pressure in the intake tract and the intake manifold are the same keeping the piston in place. Once you let off the throttle and the plate closes off, the turbo is still pulling air through the intake tract continuing to build pressure, but the intake manifold goes into vacuum. In this case, one side of the piston loses pressure and the piston moves, opening the BOV/BPV.
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"Rabble! Rabble! Don't put BOVs on MAF metered engines!!!" - Many people will also mention MAF readings being a reason why you shouldn't put a BOV on the car. And while some people may just regurgitate the information without knowing what's going on, I know there are those who are interested in knowing. Basically, if you refer to the diagram below, you will see air entering the ram scoop, through the air box and past the MAF sensor. The MAF sensor reads the amount of air passing through and sends the information to the ECU. Your ECU will demand the proper amount of fuel to counteract it in order to maintain proper Air/Fuel ratios. Look at where the BPV is placed. It's after the turbocharger and before the intake manifold. If you Blow Off the excess air, recall that the same air was initially metered and accounted for by your MAF sensor on it's way in through the intake. So while your ECU is counting on that air to be re-routed back to the intake tract(specifically into the turbo inlet hose), blowing that air off will result in a rich mixture of A/F and you will burn VERY rich during the shift. While some after market companies may refer to it as a 'cooling effect', it does have some negative effects over time and can seriously cause damage to your engine and/or turbocharger.

Conclusion - The entire point of this post was to dissolve rumors and hopefully replace it with some technical insight to those who didn't quite know the difference, or just wanted to know more about the way these valves function. Obviously, the more you know about a product, the more of an educated decision you can make while being aware of any potential gain or harm. If there's any biased message, it's that Atmospheric BOVs are unsafe in applications like WRXs (and most other stock turbo, MAF metered cars). Hybrids are, theoretically, the best of both worlds. The stock BPVs can only hold so much boost because the springs are just strong enough to hold factory level boost (sometimes a tad less, and end up causing boost leaks). Another limitation is that they are generally made of plastic and just can't hold higher boost pressures without failing. Atmospheric BOVs are capable of holding higher boost, but are also adjustable to allow more leak or more resistance. (Again, an 'absolutely perfect' compromise is impossible). Hybrids or 50/50 valves try to give you that BOV sound at high boost levels while effectively functioning like BPVs under lower boost. Boost leak is safer than compressor surge. But neither is really a good thing. One loses power, one harms the turbocharger. My Advice? Upgrade as needed. If you're going to be running higher boost levels than stock, a replacement Bypass Valve may be the better choice as it will not hurt your performance and will in fact hold boost better than the factory unit. Just don't expect any head turning sounds from it
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бидны хэдлэгээр бов маань имэрхүү 3 янз байх учир бас байна.
*Blow Off Valves* - The Basics of Blow Off Valves, Bypass Valves & Hybrid Valves
There seems to be some misconceptions about the way these things work. Most people new to turbocharging are just looking for the additional sound. So I figure I'll do my best to clear things up in the simplest way possible without getting too technical. Feel free to let me know if I need to add/address anything!
What is the function of these valves? A turbocharger compresses air with the help of exhaust gases... Just because you let your foot off the gas, that doesn't mean boost building has stopped. That excess boost has to go SOMEWHERE. The duty of the factory Bypass Valve is to recycle or re-route this air back to the intake tract (more specifically, the turbo inlet hose). Atmospheric, or Blow Off Valves vent to atmosphere, and Hybrids will do a bit of both. First, I will post diagrams I mocked up, and go from left to right through the illustrations, describing each condition with each type of valve. This is intended to illustrate the mechanical inner workings of the valves. Then I will write a little more about the function and why to stay away from Atmospheric valves. Hopefully I'll be able to demonstrate WHY a BOV can be potentially harmful, while BPVs and Hybrids may not be.
STOCK BPV:

* When the throttle is open - The piston is not under pressure, so the compressed air from the turbo flows right through.
* When the throttle is closed at low boost levels (Example: Shifting around 2200 RPM) - The piston is under light pressure, and the stock spring is not very strong, so that excess air is effectively routed back to the intake tract. (The MAF sensor expects this excess air to be plumbed back to the intake, so the ECU demands more fuel to balance the A/F ratio.)
* When the throttle is closed at high boost levels (Example: Shifting around 4500 RPM) - The piston is under heavy pressure, so that excess air is effectively routed back to the intake tract. (The MAF sensor expects this excess air to be plumbed back to the intake, so the ECU demands more fuel to balance the A/F ratio.)
ATMOSPHERIC BOV:

* When the throttle is open - The piston is not under pressure, so the compressed air from the turbo flows right through.
* When the throttle is closed at low boost levels (Example: Shifting around 2200 RPM) - The piston is under light pressure, and the since the spring is heavier in aftermarket applications, the excess air creates a back-pressure by having nowhere to go other than back where it came from... The turbo's compressor wheel receives resistance and can stall. This is referred to as Compressor Surge. This can seriously damage your turbo over time. The second ill effect is that your ECU has demanded fuel, but that air is not routed back to the intake, thus causing an extremely rich moment between the shift (Often resulting in a fire ball out the exhaust in cat-less application).
* When the throttle is closed at high boost levels (Example: Shifting around 4500 RPM) - The piston is under heavy pressure, and the piston moves far enough to expose the opening and vents that excess boost off to the atmosphere. This creates a very rich moment during the shift, because your ECU has demanded fuel, but that air is not routed back to the intake, again causing an extremely rich moment between the shift (Often resulting in a fire ball out the exhaust).
**Additional Notes** - If the valve is adjusted to a lighter spring tension, you will effectively prevent the stalling, but it will also allow the piston to push too easily creating boost leak, before you even reach your target boost pressures. Now you may think you have a "perfectly tuned" the valve.. But this is VERY unlikely, because boost pressures vary. Your valve's spring will ALWAYS be too strong or too tight. Causing boost leak, or compressor Surge, and always leading to that rich mixture between shifts.
HYBRID or 50/50 BOV:

* When the throttle is open - The piston is not under pressure, so the compressed air from the turbo flows right through.
* When the throttle is closed at low boost levels (Example: Shifting around 2200 RPM) - The piston is under light pressure, the piston is only pushed far enough to reveal the first opening which routes the excess boost to flow back to the intake. (Just like stock)
* When the throttle is closed at high boost levels (Example: Shifting around 4500 RPM) - The piston is under heavy pressure, and the piston moves far enough to expose both openings: theoretically this satisfies the plumb back to the intake, and then vents off any additional boost off to the atmosphere.
**Additional Notes** - The idea behind a Hybrid valve is simple and effective. It's got two openings. One to plumb back to the intake, and one to vent to atmosphere. The Vent opening is further back than the Intake opening, so that under light load and light boost levels, the valve functions EXACTLY like a by pass valve. But once you're shifting under full boost, there is so much pressure that the piston is pushed even further back revealing BOTH openings. Theres only so much boost that first opening can plumb back in that moment, so the rest is vented off to the atmosphere.
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The Mechanics of it all: The movement of the piston isn't entirely dependent on Spring Tension alone. One of the largest contributing factors to the function of the BPV is pressure differential between the intake tract and intake manifold. This applies to all the valves mentioned above. Basically, when the vehicle is under boost with your foot to the floor, the pressure in the intake tract and the intake manifold are the same keeping the piston in place. Once you let off the throttle and the plate closes off, the turbo is still pulling air through the intake tract continuing to build pressure, but the intake manifold goes into vacuum. In this case, one side of the piston loses pressure and the piston moves, opening the BOV/BPV.
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"Rabble! Rabble! Don't put BOVs on MAF metered engines!!!" - Many people will also mention MAF readings being a reason why you shouldn't put a BOV on the car. And while some people may just regurgitate the information without knowing what's going on, I know there are those who are interested in knowing. Basically, if you refer to the diagram below, you will see air entering the ram scoop, through the air box and past the MAF sensor. The MAF sensor reads the amount of air passing through and sends the information to the ECU. Your ECU will demand the proper amount of fuel to counteract it in order to maintain proper Air/Fuel ratios. Look at where the BPV is placed. It's after the turbocharger and before the intake manifold. If you Blow Off the excess air, recall that the same air was initially metered and accounted for by your MAF sensor on it's way in through the intake. So while your ECU is counting on that air to be re-routed back to the intake tract(specifically into the turbo inlet hose), blowing that air off will result in a rich mixture of A/F and you will burn VERY rich during the shift. While some after market companies may refer to it as a 'cooling effect', it does have some negative effects over time and can seriously cause damage to your engine and/or turbocharger.

Conclusion - The entire point of this post was to dissolve rumors and hopefully replace it with some technical insight to those who didn't quite know the difference, or just wanted to know more about the way these valves function. Obviously, the more you know about a product, the more of an educated decision you can make while being aware of any potential gain or harm. If there's any biased message, it's that Atmospheric BOVs are unsafe in applications like WRXs (and most other stock turbo, MAF metered cars). Hybrids are, theoretically, the best of both worlds. The stock BPVs can only hold so much boost because the springs are just strong enough to hold factory level boost (sometimes a tad less, and end up causing boost leaks). Another limitation is that they are generally made of plastic and just can't hold higher boost pressures without failing. Atmospheric BOVs are capable of holding higher boost, but are also adjustable to allow more leak or more resistance. (Again, an 'absolutely perfect' compromise is impossible). Hybrids or 50/50 valves try to give you that BOV sound at high boost levels while effectively functioning like BPVs under lower boost. Boost leak is safer than compressor surge. But neither is really a good thing. One loses power, one harms the turbocharger. My Advice? Upgrade as needed. If you're going to be running higher boost levels than stock, a replacement Bypass Valve may be the better choice as it will not hurt your performance and will in fact hold boost better than the factory unit. Just don't expect any head turning sounds from it
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Re: TURBO гэж яг юу вэ??? /турбо, бов ... г.м/
ene tavisan medeelliinha sourc-g oldguie. ene nuhuriin l medlegiin bichken heseg bololtoi yum...
http://s139.photobucket.com/home/Boost_Addict/index
ene album-g ni uzej btal ih goy goy hergetei zuranuud bgaad bna. /turbo charged engine diagram/

http://s139.photobucket.com/home/Boost_Addict/index
ene album-g ni uzej btal ih goy goy hergetei zuranuud bgaad bna. /turbo charged engine diagram/

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How Subaru’s Factory Boost Control System Works
How Subaru’s Factory Boost Control System Works v1.09 /iisheegee orj uzeerei subaru chda. /
source http://www.cobbtuning.com/info/?id=3482&rsku=0
source http://www.cobbtuning.com/info/?id=3482&rsku=0
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Re: TURBO гэж яг юу вэ??? /турбо, бов ... г.м/
unuudur neg ug sonsloo. yu ve gehleer TURBO bol nemelt system tiimees undsen agaariin orooltond bol niih yosgui nemelt hiih nuhend holboh yostoi gej. neg l bish yum shig bolovch gol zorilgiin huvid bol tiim yumaa. tgd ene ni minii mashind yaaj nuluulh ve gej bodson chin yag zuv yumaa. bi undsen agaariin oroltondoo bish. tuslah agaariin oroltond hiih yostoi yum bn gedgiig uhaarlaa. zurag zurahdaa muu uchraas zuragaar uzuulj chadkunee. gehdee ungutuur yarichij chadah bh.
minii mashinii huvid:
engiin helber...
agaarshuugch, huviarlagch buyu binzinii hemjeeg tohiruulagch. mehanik biadag bolhoor, motoriin kompressorin soroltiin huchiig ashiglan oroh agaariin hemjeegeer neegddeg yum neegdeh uydee tuunruu orj bgaa hemjeend tohiruulasan binziniig porsunkruu yavuulj ugdug yum. uunii daraa orson agaar ni tsaash, holimogiin hooloin amaar orj jinhene holimogondoo ijil hemjeeteigeer ordog yum.
turbo bolgoh helber...
minii hiisen baisan buruu helber...
agaariin oroh undsen shugamand tuboonii agaariig ugsun, ene uyd jijig turbo ni het sorogdoj bsan. jijigdej bsan ni ene. gehdee ene bas buruu holbolt bsan yum
zuv bolgoh helber...
undsen agaar ordgooroo l orono. harin turbonii shahagdsan agaariig holimogruu shuud oruulah buyu huviarlagchiig algasuulj oruulah uchirtai bsiim bn. engesneer holimogiin oroh agaar ni zuv bolj ugch bgaan bn. esergeeree undsen agaar oroh ni bagasah uchiraas holimgiig tohiruulj baga neeltend ovoo ih binzin zartsuuldgaar hiih uchirtai yum bn.
ene ni yag iimrhuu jijig tubonii huvid motort nelemelt bolj ugdug yum bn. yag l deisel shig gesen ug...
minii mashinii huvid:
engiin helber...
agaarshuugch, huviarlagch buyu binzinii hemjeeg tohiruulagch. mehanik biadag bolhoor, motoriin kompressorin soroltiin huchiig ashiglan oroh agaariin hemjeegeer neegddeg yum neegdeh uydee tuunruu orj bgaa hemjeend tohiruulasan binziniig porsunkruu yavuulj ugdug yum. uunii daraa orson agaar ni tsaash, holimogiin hooloin amaar orj jinhene holimogondoo ijil hemjeeteigeer ordog yum.
turbo bolgoh helber...
minii hiisen baisan buruu helber...
agaariin oroh undsen shugamand tuboonii agaariig ugsun, ene uyd jijig turbo ni het sorogdoj bsan. jijigdej bsan ni ene. gehdee ene bas buruu holbolt bsan yum
zuv bolgoh helber...
undsen agaar ordgooroo l orono. harin turbonii shahagdsan agaariig holimogruu shuud oruulah buyu huviarlagchiig algasuulj oruulah uchirtai bsiim bn. engesneer holimogiin oroh agaar ni zuv bolj ugch bgaan bn. esergeeree undsen agaar oroh ni bagasah uchiraas holimgiig tohiruulj baga neeltend ovoo ih binzin zartsuuldgaar hiih uchirtai yum bn.
ene ni yag iimrhuu jijig tubonii huvid motort nelemelt bolj ugdug yum bn. yag l deisel shig gesen ug...
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Re: TURBO гэж яг юу вэ??? /турбо, бов ... г.м/
End neg minii sain oilgoj ogohgui baigaa yumaa humuusees asuuya. Benzin hudulgurt Turbo yamar uuregtei ve? her ashigtai ve?
Diesel Turbog ch neg oilgood baigaa yum. 1.Dieseliin garaltiin daralt benzinees hamaagui ih tuuniig recycle hiij baigaa. 2. Diesel dotor iluu daralttai agaar shahchihlaa geed detonats uguhgui.
Getel bezind bol GDI bish l yum bol shahaltiin zeregiig 9-11 ees deesh garhaj chadahgui (detonats ugnu). Herev iluu agaar tsilinder ru chihej chadahgui yum bol turbonii hereg yund baiga yum? Zugeer oroh taktand ajilah holimog uuduus n uleegeed ugdug sens u? RPM deeshluulegch u? ene tohioldold hudulguuriin pumping loss l bagasna biz. Oor yamar ach holbogdol bain?
Turbo-g disel l iluu taaraldhaas benzind neg ih tugeemel bish. Ene neg yum heleed baigaa biz?
Diesel Turbog ch neg oilgood baigaa yum. 1.Dieseliin garaltiin daralt benzinees hamaagui ih tuuniig recycle hiij baigaa. 2. Diesel dotor iluu daralttai agaar shahchihlaa geed detonats uguhgui.
Getel bezind bol GDI bish l yum bol shahaltiin zeregiig 9-11 ees deesh garhaj chadahgui (detonats ugnu). Herev iluu agaar tsilinder ru chihej chadahgui yum bol turbonii hereg yund baiga yum? Zugeer oroh taktand ajilah holimog uuduus n uleegeed ugdug sens u? RPM deeshluulegch u? ene tohioldold hudulguuriin pumping loss l bagasna biz. Oor yamar ach holbogdol bain?
Turbo-g disel l iluu taaraldhaas benzind neg ih tugeemel bish. Ene neg yum heleed baigaa biz?




