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[Amethyst Goddess]

Universe finite gedeg ni sayhan batlagdlaa. Yu gej bodoj bna?

[Ai]

Sonirholtoi. Yaaj batalsan yum be?

Tegeed yuun dotor baidag yum be gee l uu. hehe

[Wettie]

odor bolgon shahuu l neg yum batlah yumaa. udahgui naadahyg chini hudlaa baih geel humuus yariad unana dee.

anyways, universe curves in on itself, but finite getsgeejiina uu? source-oo heleech x-girlie.

[Amethyst Goddess]

universe curves on itself gedeg ni unen. Universe is in reality relatively small, mirror image-uud ni infinite yum shig haragduuldag gj bna. Could that be it?

[Ai]

ta 2-g shutchlee. Dahiad jaahan todorhoi bicheech?

[Wettie]

well that could be. but u know many theories are plausible.

if universe curves in on itself, it certainly would seem infinite.

tehdee l neg yum neg gazar duusval tendees ni oor neg yum ehleh yostoi gej bodood surtsan tolgoi yum aa bi. ter oor neg yumyg ni bas universiin heseg gevel infinite ch yum shig.

tehdee "Infinity- Is it the biggest thing possible? what is infinity to the degree of infinity?" geed neg sumtai niitlel garsan bainalee. unshaagui.
bas "einsteinii ter space-time block gej baidaggui. time flows one way" enee teree geed niitlel garsan bainalee. unshaagui.
bas "it's possible to survive from a travel into a supermassive, spinning black hole. at the end of the travel u would emerge in a totally different universe, or at another time" geed gartsan bailee. unshsan shuu.

ene erdemted mash olon onol bolovsruuljiinaa a? tegeed neg gaigui yum hiih bailgui dee. jesus gej.


hey x, manidaa ter orchlon togsgolog geedaigaa source-oo helj ogooch?

[Amethyst Goddess]

tegvel bid 2 adilhan soursetoi yum bna. Naad bugdiig chin unshsan yum bna. Infinityn tuhai ih sonirholtoin bna lee try to read it if u have time.

[Ai]

bi source-g ni oltson. manai surguulias ordog yum bilee. hehe
unshih geed hevletsen baigaa. thx shuu.

[Nsk]

Durs ni havtas deer baigaa gene. Yamarhuu yum baisan yum bol ....? Uka setguuliinhee havtasniih ni zurgiig tavihgui yum uu?

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Universiin dursiig setguuliin havtsan deer tavitsan bnuu? he he he. 4 hemjeest dursiig 2 hemjeest deer uu

[Bishrelt]

nere universe finite gej halti harj baisim baina. Gehdee bi neg l chigleed l gerliin hurdtai iavaad baih tusam haa hureh ve gedeg n ikh sonirholtoi shu. urtuntsiin zahad hurlee gehed tsaana n bas l oron zai or biet baih l iostoi ium shig. but may be it is so complex that bidnii medrehui tusuulul urtuntsiig oilgohod het jijigdeh ch ium shig.

wettieiin tuhaid whitehole-iig iarj baih shig biana da. black holeiin tuvd n ochihoor you travel thru socalled wormhole and you are sput out thru whitehole where time runs backward.

well, how it sounds: inside the black hole, space and time switches place.
horizon is where the speed of light = escape velocity. out side the horizon you can get away if you fire your rocket hard enough but once you got inside the horizon, u gotta travel faster than speed of light. since nothing is faster than speed of light, u can't escape.

Once you're inside of the horizon, spacetime is distorted so much that the coordinates describing radial distance and time switch roles. That is, "r", the coordinate that describes how far away you are from the center, is a timelike coordinate, and "t" is a spacelike one. One consequence of this is that you can't stop yourself from moving to smaller and smaller values of r, just as under ordinary circumstances you can't avoid moving towards the future (that is, towards larger and larger values of t). Eventually, you're bound to hit the singularity at r = 0. You might try to avoid it by firing your rockets, but it's futile: no matter which direction you run, you can't avoid your future. Trying to avoid the center of a black hole once you've crossed the horizon is just like trying to avoid next Thursday.

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Tsahilgaan soronzon hariltsam uilchleliig photon damjuuldag bilee. Gravitastiin hariltsan uilchleliig gravition gedeg boom danjuuldag gej uzdeg. Har nuhnees photon sugarj garah bolomjgui gedeg. Tegvel gravition ch bas adilhan sugarj garah bolomjui yu? esvel sugarj garj chadahuu? Yagaad? Hariltsan uilchleliig damjuulj 2 boomiin hoorond soliltsoj baigaa photon bolon atomaas tsatsarsan photon 2-iin yalgaa yu ve?

[gav]

har nuhnees graviton ch sugarch garahgui. uuniig iimerhuu maygaar oilgoj boloh yum: haritsanguin tusgai onold gerliin konus gej baidag. ogtorgui-hugatsaanii A tseg deer bolson uil yavdal zuvhun gerliin konusiin "eyreg" hagas dotorh uil yavdluudad nuluulj chadna. harin A uil yavdald gerliin konusiin "surug" hagas dotorh uil yavdluud nuluulsun baih bolomjtoi. tuhain konusiin gadna orshih uil yavdluud A uil yavdaltai yamar ch holboogui. odoo gravitatsiin orontoi ued ene "gerliin konus" maani yag konus bish, "muruisan konus" maygiin yum bolj huvirna. (unendee hugatsaa-tust geodesiin shugamuudiin olonlog) bid ene "konusiin" eyreg hagasiig "nuluuluh muj" gej nerleye.

har nuhiig toirood "uzegdliin mandal" gedeg bumbulug baidag. ene bumbulug ni 4 hemjeest ogtorgui-hugatsaand cylinder shig yum bolj haragdana. ene cylindriiin gadnah oiroltsooh uzegdliin nuluuluh mujiin ihenh ni ene cylinder luu sorogdson yum shig muruisan bna. harin ene cylinder dotor orshih uzegdliin nuluuluh muj ni urgelj ene cylinder dotroo baidag. tegeheer uzegdliin mandal dotor uussen yamar ch bodit buum gadna ni garch chadahgui.

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Tegvel gravitatsiin hariltsan uilchleliig zooj bgaa gravtion garj chadahgui gesen uguu?

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Har nuhen dotot tsenegtei bie baisan gej uzeye. Tegvel nogoo Kulonii huch gadna ni baigaa tsenegtei bied uilchilhuu?

[gav]

uilchilne.

har nuhnii "event horizon" deer radiusiin daguu gadagshaa tusaj bui gerel "zogsono". u.h. gerel c hurdtai gadagshaa "yavah" bolovch tuviin tataltiin ulmaas "zogsongi" bolchihno gesen ug. uuniig mun gravitatsiin ulaan shiljilt hyazgaargui bolj bna gej tusuulj bolno. yag ene "event horizon"-ii gadna gerel mash "udaan", u.h. ulaan shiljilt asar ih, tendees garsan gerel gadnii ajiglagchid ireh hugatsaa urt bna. "event horizon"-d oirtoh tusam ene hugatsaa hyazgaarguid duhnu. tegeheer, har nuh ruu "unaj" baigaa bietiig gadnaas ni ajiglahad hyazgaargui udaan "unaj" bui met bna. ter biet "event horizon"-d hezee ch hurehgui. (gevch tuhain bietiin huvid "event horizon"-iig dairah "local" hugatsaa tugsgulug bna.) odoo tsenegtei biet har nuhend unalaa gej bodoyo. tegvel ter biet har nuhnees hol orshij bui gadnii biettei hezee ch "har nuhen dotroos" hariltsan uilchleltsehgui, harin yag "event horizon"-ii oiroltsoogoos uilchleltseer bh bolno. har nuhen dotor "anhnaasaa baisan" yumnuud gej bhgui. har nuhnii buh shinj chanar tugsgulug hugatsaanii umnu bolson uil yavdluudaar todorhoilogdono.

graviton gej yarilguigeer gravitatsiin hariltsan uilchleliig avch uzie. ogtorguin duriin tsegiin geometr shinj chanar tuhain tsegiin oiroltsoo bolj bui uil yavdluudaar todorhoilogdono. u.h. gravitatsiin hariltsan uilchlel bol hyazgaargui hurdtai tarhdag ed bish. tegeheer mun tsahilgaan soronzon hariltsan uilchleltei adilaar, gadnaas ni "harahad" ("gravitatsiin nudeer" harahad) "event horizon" ruu unaj baigaa bietuud "hyazgaargui udaan" unah bolohoor "har nuhen dotroos" ted gadnii biettei hezee ch uilchleltsehgui. mun har nuhnii "uuriin" tataltsliin ornii tuhaid, har nuh anh uuseh ued, tuunii buh bodisuud yag "event horizon"-iig ogtloh ueiin ter gravitatsiin oron odoo hurtel uilchilseer baina gej uzne. gravitatsiin uilchlel ni ogtorguin tuhain tsegiin geometr shinj chanaraas hamaardag, tuuniig haa negtee baigaa har nuh "shuud asar urt gar sungaad" uurchilchihuj chadahgui, uurchluh gants arga ni ter har nuh oir haviinhaa ogtorguig "segserne", ter "segsreltiin" dolgion ni tuhain tseg deer irsen tohioldold tuunii shinj chanariig uurchilj chadna, gevch ter dolgion irtlee asar udna, yamar neg object har nuh boltol agshih ued tuunii tataltsal ulam ulam ih boloh buguud, ene ni tuunii uuriin "segsreltiin" dolgioniig ulam ulam udaashruulna, u.h. tsag hugatsaanii daguu "sungana", yag har nuh boloh agshind tuunii tatah huch yag uuriin ter "segsreltiin" dolgioniig hyazgaargui urtaar "sungah" hemjeend ochih buguud, yag ter dolgion tuunii umnuhun orshih asar urt dolgionuudiin daraa, u.h. hyazgaargui hugatsaanii daraa ogtorguin tseguud deer "irj medregdene" gej oilgoh heregtei.

ps: end baigaa aldaanuudiin (hervee baival) bolon iluu suuliin ueiin ur dunguudiin talaar durtaiya sonsoh bolno.

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Tegvel har nuh uuseh yag ter ueiin process yaj yavagdah ve?

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2 tsenengtei bies photon solitsoj hariltsan uilchilsen gej uzeye. Tegvel soliltsson photon masstai baihuu?

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Gadnii ajiglagchiin huvid har nuh gedeg ni event horizon deer zogsongi baidald orson bietuud( anh uuseh ueiin) bolon event horizon ruu hyazgaargui dohoh bietuutees togtoh nee. Event horizonii dotor yu ch baihgui.
Tegvel sansriin nisgegch har nuh ruu unasan gej uzeye. Ter event horizoniig nevtren har nuh ruu unah ni ilerhii. Harin ene ued sansriin nisgegchid har nuh yaj haragdah ve?

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Mash ih masstai biet ooriinhee tatah huchiig zogsooh chadvargui bolsnoos har nuh boldog gedeg bilee. Collapse yavagdah ueiin processiig avj uzeye. Ene ued boomiin ezleh oron zai bagasah bogood todorhoiguin zarchmaas energy ni ch mun ihseh bolno. Hyazgaargui ruu temuulne gesen ug. Uuniig dagaad boom oron zaigaa telehiig ermelzene. Energy ussun uchraas mass ihsene gravitatsiin huch ch ihsene. 1 tsegt tuglarah ued boomiin energy hyazgaargui gravitatsiin huch mun hyazgaargui bolno. Tsaashaa yu boloh bol?

[T.G.]

suuliin bichleg chini jaahan aldaatai bna.

- buumin ezleh oron zai bagasna gedgees energy ihsene gej garahgui. zuvhun, buumiin impulsiin todorhoi bus ihsene gej garna.

- buum oron zaigaa telehiig ermelzene gej heleh ni iluuts. ug system buheldee uuruu uuriinhuu asar huchtei agshiltiig nuhtsulduulj baigaa bolohoor bas buum oron zaigaa agshaahiig ermelzej bna gej oilgoj boloh taltai.

- har nuh uuruu ayandaa agshih tusam mass ni ihseh yum shig bichsen bna. tiim yum bolohgui. mass ni togtmol bna. harin bodisiin nyagtral ihssenees gravitatsiin oron ulam ulam huchtei bolno. ene ni uuriin eeljind bodisiig agshaaj nyagtraliig ulam ihesgene. ene processiig zogsooh yamar ch huch bhgui.

- tsaashaa yu boloh talaar bid mash baga medej bna. bidend har nuhnii gund boloh processiig nariin tailbarlah onol bhgui. yamar ch bsan har nuh boditoi orshin baidag ni batlagdsan.

[T.G.]

sansriin nisgegch har nuh ruu unasan gej uzeye. Ter event horizoniig nevtren har nuh ruu unah ni ilerhii. Harin ene ued sansriin nisgegchid har nuh yaj haragdah ve?

ilerhii ch bish l dee. gehdee uuniig batalchihsan geed baigaa. yag event horizoniig ogtloh ued tiim surtei yum bolohgui. tend yamar ch ontsgoi yum bhgui. harin tud udalgui sansriin nisegch maani zuursan guril sungasan yum shig yum bolno doo.

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2 tsenengtei bies photon solitsoj hariltsan uilchilsen gej uzeye. Tegvel soliltsson photon masstai baihuu?

masstai yu gesnees, energytei baih uu gej asuuh ni zuv. energytei bna.

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Bi bodit sansriin nisgegch avj uzeegui. Sunadaggui sansriin nisgegch baina gej tosoolj bodson yum.

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Herev hariltsan uilchleliig damjuulagch boom masstai(Energytei gesen ug) bol har nuhnees sugran garj chadahgui. Tegvel gravition ch gesen sugaran garj chadahgui bishuu? Gravition sugaran garj chadahgui gedgees gravitastiin hariltsan uilchlel uilchlehgui. Busad hariltsan uilchlel ch gesen. Bur alga bolno gesen ug. Oor luugee bietiig tatahgui gesen uguu?

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Mun proton electron 2 sul hariltsan uilchleld oroltsson gej uzeye. Tegvel W, Z gegdeh bozonuudiig soliltsoh yostoi. W, Z bozonuudiin mass ni electron protonii massaas olon dahin ih. Ene yu gesen uguu?