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Би Хүннүгийн гол аймгууд Түрэг гэсэн болохоос биш Хүннүг Түрэг гээгүй . Хүннү Донхуг эзлэснээр Монголчуудын өвөг дээдэс Хүннүгийн захиргаанд орсон . Гол нь одооны Монголчууд ялангуяа Боржигонууд Шивэйгээс гаралтай . Бусад Монгол аймгууд хядуулах нь хядуулаад уусах нь уусаад дууссан
гол аймгууд нь Түрэг байсныг нь юугаар гэрчилхийн? тийм баримт байхгүйшдэ.
Хэлнээс авхуулаад зөндөө байдаг . Баатар гэдэг үгийг Түрэгүүд ч хэрэглэдэг . Хатан , хааныг ч гэсэн
Монголчууд л Хүннү гээд донгосоод байдгаас биш ихэнхи гадныхан бол Түрэгүүд гол овгууд байсан гэдгийг хэлдэг
Аттилагийн Huns ийн нэрнүүдийн Түрэг тайлбарууд
Other scholars have argued for a Turkic origin of the name. Omeljan Pritsak considered Ἀττίλα (Attíla) a composite title-name which derived from Turkic *es (great, old), and *t il (sea, ocean), and the suffix /a/.[14]:444 The stressed back syllabic til assimilated the front member es, so it became *as.[14]:444 It is a nominative, in form of attíl- (< *etsíl < *es tíl) with the meaning "the oceanic, universal ruler".[14]:444 J.J. Mikkola connected it with Turkic āt (name, fame).[13]:216 As another Turkic possibility, H. Althof (1902) considered it was related to Turkish atli (horseman, cavalier), or Turkish at (horse) and dil (tongue).[13]:216 Maenchen-Helfen argues that Pritsak's derivation is "ingenious but for many reasons unacceptable",[10]:387 while dismissing Mikkola's as "too farfetched to be taken seriously".[10]:390 M. Snædal similarly notes that none of these proposals has achieved wide acceptance.[13]:215-216 Criticizing the proposals of finding Turkic or other etymologies for Attila, Doerfer notes that King George VI of England had a name of Greek origin, and Süleyman the Magnificent had a name of Arabic origin, yet that does not make them Greeks or Arabs: it is therefore plausible that Attila would have a name not of Hunnic origin.[11]:31-32 Historian Hyun Jin Kim, however, has argued that the Turkic etymology is "more probable".[15]:30
M. Snædal, in a paper that rejects the Germanic derivation but notes the problems with the existing proposed Turkic etymologies, argues that Attila's name could have originated from Turkic-Mongolian at, adyy/agta (gelding, warhorse) and Turkish atli (horseman, cavalier), meaning "possessor of geldings, provider of warhorses"
Gyula Németh and László Rásonyi argued that the name is a transcription of Turkic munčuq, munʒuq, minʒaq, bunčuq, bonʒuq, mončuq, with the potential meanings of "jewel, pearl, bead" or "flag".[4][5]
Omeljan Pritsak derived the name from Turkic erän, irregular plural of ēr, meaning "man, real man, hero". [17] He argued that the ending -nik was a dimunitive suffix, -näk or -nik, found only in the Altaic dialects, sometime also used as an augmentation.[3] The name, reconstructed by Pritsak as Hērnäk, could thus mean both "hero" and "little [lucky] man".[17]
Several scholars derive Ellac from a word akin to Old Turkic älik / ilik / ilig ("prince, ruler, king),[17][18] which derives from *el (realm) + lä-g (to rule, the rule).[19] The name thus appears to be a title rather than a personal name.[17]
Otto Maenchen-Helfen considered it a derivation from Turkic *Däŋiziq, meaning "little lake".[17] Omeljan Pritsak considered the reconstructed form deŋir + čig > deŋičig, with the meaning "ocean-like".[16]
Omeljan Pritsak derived it from Old Turkic and considered it to be of composite form, with the change ουγα- > ουα, Greek suffix -ς, and those with ila as Gothicized variant.[3] The Ancient Greek Ρ (Rho) rendered Hunnic *hr-, which is Old Turkic *her > har/ar/er (man), common component of names and titles.[3] Second part ουγα- or ουα resembles Old Turkic title ogä (to think).[7] Thus the reconstruction goes *hēr ögä > *hər ögä > hrögä.[8]
Omeljan Pritsak considered its root bli- had typical vocalic metathesis of Oghur-Bulgar language from < *bil-, which is Old Turkic "to know".[3] Thus Hunnic *bildä > blidä was actually Old Turkic bilgä (wise, sovereign).[3]
